Big changes are needed after Portas review, Nelson's business community is told

Burnley and Pendle Citizen: Mary Portas in Nelson Mary Portas in Nelson

NELSON’S high street will today be told that it must make radical changes if it is to pro-sper.

The Government’s Local Growth Minister will tell the 27 Portas Pilot towns, of which Nelson is one, that the high street can no longer live in the past, and needs to adapt to meet the changes in consumer behaviour over the past few years.

Nelson was one of the first 12 towns in the UK to be designated as a Portas Pilot, and last week received its first visit from the Queen of Shops herself, Mary Portas.

She was seeing where the £100,000 the town was given as part of the pilot scheme had been spent. During her visit she described the town as ‘beautiful’ and said there was hope for a prosperous future for Nelson.

Today minister Mark Prisk will launch a new national Future High Streets Forum of leaders from retail, property and business to better understand competition faced by town centres and build on the Portas Rev-iew.

The forum will advise on how to adapt to online shopping and the changing behaviour of consumers.

It will also investigate parking, how to make it easier for pop-up shops to use empty spaces and allowing commercial landlords to turn part of their building into residential property to bring more people into town centres.

Mr Prisk will say: “It is clear that our high streets will need to change to prosper. There is already great work being done across the country to revitalise the town centres but it needs to spread further, faster. The Future High Streets Forum will help us do that.

“The forum will bring business, councils, retailers and property experts to work together and back communities to rejuvenate our high streets.”

Comments (9)

Please log in to enable comment sorting

7:18pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Rimbus says...

I can think of some 'radical changes' that would help - mostly involving bulldozers and wrecking balls!
I can think of some 'radical changes' that would help - mostly involving bulldozers and wrecking balls! Rimbus

7:33pm Thu 7 Feb 13

doomchanter says...

I'll have a pint of what she is on! (or a pipe full! ) "she described the town as ‘beautiful’" where was she looking? the best way to see Nelson is to glance over one's shoulder as you fly past on the M65
One visit to the Arndale centre would put the fear of God into any retail investor.
If you dont believe me go and have a gander yourself.
The town centre is, and has been for a long long time a gigantic sink hole for public cash.
I will platt the proverbial s*** e if any improvement comes from this.
I'll have a pint of what she is on! (or a pipe full! ) "she described the town as ‘beautiful’" where was she looking? the best way to see Nelson is to glance over one's shoulder as you fly past on the M65 One visit to the Arndale centre would put the fear of God into any retail investor. If you dont believe me go and have a gander yourself. The town centre is, and has been for a long long time a gigantic sink hole for public cash. I will platt the proverbial s*** e if any improvement comes from this. doomchanter

10:10pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Rappide says...

If the business rates were reduced and the rentals for the empty shops also, maybe people with an idea for a novel or original outlet might be prepared to risk having a bash at conducting business. Without the incentive, those shops will remain boarded up and closed.
If the business rates were reduced and the rentals for the empty shops also, maybe people with an idea for a novel or original outlet might be prepared to risk having a bash at conducting business. Without the incentive, those shops will remain boarded up and closed. Rappide

8:32am Fri 8 Feb 13

Kevin, Colne says...

The word beautiful is not one that usually comes first into my mind when describing Nelson, although the centre and street scene has been improved markedly over recent years and some parts now look very attractive indeed. Pendle Council deserve the highest praise for their efforts and tenacity.

Am I alone in thinking that the ‘high-ups’ encouraging ordinary folks to set-up shop in independent retailing is part of a cruel joke in which the lower orders are seen as people to be taken for a ride? If so, this would not be the first time that our lords and masters have sat on high telling those of us at the bottom what we should be doing and what a ‘jolly-good idea’ they have ready for us, while they produce glossy reports, quaff their Chardonnay and attend various forums.

I've thought about this and have tried to imagine what I would do if I had £25,000 in savings and from the list below had to rank the items in order of suitability of maintaining the value of the capital and producing decent income:

Lending the money to the government by purchasing Premium Bonds;

Opening a shop in Nelson;

Placing the money on deposit with a financial institution;

Putting the money in a cocoa tin under my bed;

Buying a structured ‘guaranteed’ investment bond form a bank or building society;

Buying a FTSE-Stock Index Fund;

Buying shares in a self-managed investment trust.

I have to say that ‘Opening a shop in Nelson would be at the bottom of my list.

If Mary Portas and the Leader of Pendle Council open their own shops in Nelson then I would re-consider the ordering. The fact that the high-ups are not falling over each other to go into independent retailing in Nelson tells you all you need to know.
The word beautiful is not one that usually comes first into my mind when describing Nelson, although the centre and street scene has been improved markedly over recent years and some parts now look very attractive indeed. Pendle Council deserve the highest praise for their efforts and tenacity. Am I alone in thinking that the ‘high-ups’ encouraging ordinary folks to set-up shop in independent retailing is part of a cruel joke in which the lower orders are seen as people to be taken for a ride? If so, this would not be the first time that our lords and masters have sat on high telling those of us at the bottom what we should be doing and what a ‘jolly-good idea’ they have ready for us, while they produce glossy reports, quaff their Chardonnay and attend various forums. I've thought about this and have tried to imagine what I would do if I had £25,000 in savings and from the list below had to rank the items in order of suitability of maintaining the value of the capital and producing decent income: Lending the money to the government by purchasing Premium Bonds; Opening a shop in Nelson; Placing the money on deposit with a financial institution; Putting the money in a cocoa tin under my bed; Buying a structured ‘guaranteed’ investment bond form a bank or building society; Buying a FTSE-Stock Index Fund; Buying shares in a self-managed investment trust. I have to say that ‘Opening a shop in Nelson would be at the bottom of my list. If Mary Portas and the Leader of Pendle Council open their own shops in Nelson then I would re-consider the ordering. The fact that the high-ups are not falling over each other to go into independent retailing in Nelson tells you all you need to know. Kevin, Colne

11:49am Fri 8 Feb 13

HecticBigBoy says...

Council need to invest in buying back the Arndale and then they can control rents to a reasonable level, reduce shop rates for a few years and then maybe, just maybe retailers will see an opportunity to build up a business in town ..... if not, will the last to close down please turn off the lights and leave the key to the town under the mat!!!
Council need to invest in buying back the Arndale and then they can control rents to a reasonable level, reduce shop rates for a few years and then maybe, just maybe retailers will see an opportunity to build up a business in town ..... if not, will the last to close down please turn off the lights and leave the key to the town under the mat!!! HecticBigBoy

10:05pm Fri 8 Feb 13

sim1846 says...

Hmm, more of the same here, as I have said before, Nelson will not get back on its feet until you have the Colne to Skipton Rail Link reopened, providing people of North and West Yorkshire as well as people of Greater Manchester with better Access to East Lancashire, I was up at the Beer fest in Colne last week and spoke to so many people that came from all over the Country, and they all said the same thing, rail transport is a big issue here, and a lot of them said they would come to Pendle on a regular bases if it had better rail links and more modern and clean trains.

But as you are all aware LCC Planning Officers think they know best and still want the A56 Bypass, take take up some of the missing rail link, which only 55% of the population will have access to.

Your rail project will give every one the chance to travel to and from the City Regions of Manchester, Leeds and even Liverpool, as it once was. with trains possibly every 30min.

What more Can I say, all I know is that LCC seems to think that everyone in East Lancashire wants the A56 Bypass and not the Railway.
Hmm, more of the same here, as I have said before, Nelson will not get back on its feet until you have the Colne to Skipton Rail Link reopened, providing people of North and West Yorkshire as well as people of Greater Manchester with better Access to East Lancashire, I was up at the Beer fest in Colne last week and spoke to so many people that came from all over the Country, and they all said the same thing, rail transport is a big issue here, and a lot of them said they would come to Pendle on a regular bases if it had better rail links and more modern and clean trains. But as you are all aware LCC Planning Officers think they know best and still want the A56 Bypass, take take up some of the missing rail link, which only 55% of the population will have access to. Your rail project will give every one the chance to travel to and from the City Regions of Manchester, Leeds and even Liverpool, as it once was. with trains possibly every 30min. What more Can I say, all I know is that LCC seems to think that everyone in East Lancashire wants the A56 Bypass and not the Railway. sim1846

9:57am Sat 9 Feb 13

sim1846 says...

Here we are with your journey times in the 1950's, which we don't even have anymore, which is the main reason why people no longer come to Pendle from the outside: talk about being cut of by LCC.

Connections

Another problem with getting around is connection times and this is particularly difficult where services are hourly or less. As an example, until we get a modern railway with the reopening of the Burnley–Colne–Sk
ipton missing rail link, the East Lancashire stations of Colne, Nelson, Brierfield, Burnley Central and Burnley Barracks have awful connections.

(i)to travel east to Leeds and Bradford, you have to travel west to Accrington. As your train approaches Accrington station you see the Leeds train pulling out and you have to wait 58 minutes for the next train. Coming back, slightly better, you have 53 minutes to wait;

(ii)to travel south to Manchester, there is a 30 minute wait at Blackburn going but what is especially galling is coming back your train from Manchester is held at the points outside Blackburn and you see the Colne train trundle across. When you get into Blackburn station the Colne train has just set off. Journey time home from Manchester (just 30 miles away) 2½ hours for a journey that in the 1960’s took just 1 hour;

(iii)to travel south to London, a 58 minute wait at Preston for the connection;

(iv)to travel north to Glasgow a 41 minute to 53 minute wait at Preston for the connection; and

(v)to travel north to Edinburgh, a 58 minute wait at Preston for the connection.

Progress, East Lancashire style, then and now:

In 1950 best journey time Colne to Liverpool was 1¾ hours, now it’s 2¾ hours to go 58 miles, an hour longer.

In 1950 best journey time Colne to Manchester was 1¼ hours, now it’s 2 hours to go 32 miles, 45 minutes longer (and 2½ hours back).

In 1950 best journey time Colne to Leeds was 1¼ hours, now it’s 2¾ hours to go just 32 miles; 1½ hours longer.

It almost feels like someone “up there” doesn’t like those of us who use the Colne branch. Surely they’re not trying to run it down so that they could close it?

My question for the committee in this regard is, how can a member of the rail travelling public have any influence on timetabling? Who do we contact about it? A simple 2 minute alteration in the timetable would solve many of these problems outlined above and I’m sure this will also be the case around the country.

August 2012
Here we are with your journey times in the 1950's, which we don't even have anymore, which is the main reason why people no longer come to Pendle from the outside: talk about being cut of by LCC. Connections Another problem with getting around is connection times and this is particularly difficult where services are hourly or less. As an example, until we get a modern railway with the reopening of the Burnley–Colne–Sk ipton missing rail link, the East Lancashire stations of Colne, Nelson, Brierfield, Burnley Central and Burnley Barracks have awful connections. (i)to travel east to Leeds and Bradford, you have to travel west to Accrington. As your train approaches Accrington station you see the Leeds train pulling out and you have to wait 58 minutes for the next train. Coming back, slightly better, you have 53 minutes to wait; (ii)to travel south to Manchester, there is a 30 minute wait at Blackburn going but what is especially galling is coming back your train from Manchester is held at the points outside Blackburn and you see the Colne train trundle across. When you get into Blackburn station the Colne train has just set off. Journey time home from Manchester (just 30 miles away) 2½ hours for a journey that in the 1960’s took just 1 hour; (iii)to travel south to London, a 58 minute wait at Preston for the connection; (iv)to travel north to Glasgow a 41 minute to 53 minute wait at Preston for the connection; and (v)to travel north to Edinburgh, a 58 minute wait at Preston for the connection. Progress, East Lancashire style, then and now: In 1950 best journey time Colne to Liverpool was 1¾ hours, now it’s 2¾ hours to go 58 miles, an hour longer. In 1950 best journey time Colne to Manchester was 1¼ hours, now it’s 2 hours to go 32 miles, 45 minutes longer (and 2½ hours back). In 1950 best journey time Colne to Leeds was 1¼ hours, now it’s 2¾ hours to go just 32 miles; 1½ hours longer. It almost feels like someone “up there” doesn’t like those of us who use the Colne branch. Surely they’re not trying to run it down so that they could close it? My question for the committee in this regard is, how can a member of the rail travelling public have any influence on timetabling? Who do we contact about it? A simple 2 minute alteration in the timetable would solve many of these problems outlined above and I’m sure this will also be the case around the country. August 2012 sim1846

8:36pm Sun 10 Feb 13

tonygreaves says...

Another silly LR headline! Nelson's "business community" were told nothing new on Thursday.

Tony Greaves
Another silly LR headline! Nelson's "business community" were told nothing new on Thursday. Tony Greaves tonygreaves

10:16pm Sat 16 Feb 13

ROBERTSLUMDWELLER123 says...

sim1846 wrote:
Hmm, more of the same here, as I have said before, Nelson will not get back on its feet until you have the Colne to Skipton Rail Link reopened, providing people of North and West Yorkshire as well as people of Greater Manchester with better Access to East Lancashire, I was up at the Beer fest in Colne last week and spoke to so many people that came from all over the Country, and they all said the same thing, rail transport is a big issue here, and a lot of them said they would come to Pendle on a regular bases if it had better rail links and more modern and clean trains.

But as you are all aware LCC Planning Officers think they know best and still want the A56 Bypass, take take up some of the missing rail link, which only 55% of the population will have access to.

Your rail project will give every one the chance to travel to and from the City Regions of Manchester, Leeds and even Liverpool, as it once was. with trains possibly every 30min.

What more Can I say, all I know is that LCC seems to think that everyone in East Lancashire wants the A56 Bypass and not the Railway.
everybody I ask say the same as me its not financially viable. and if the train did go through to Skipton even with your train spotting mentality must know people will just go straight through nelson&colne to Skipton then bypass them both on the way back all it will do is boost the economy in Yorkshire to the detrement of nelson/colne,so please shut up,dont you think we have enough white elephants in nelson!!!
[quote][p][bold]sim1846[/bold] wrote: Hmm, more of the same here, as I have said before, Nelson will not get back on its feet until you have the Colne to Skipton Rail Link reopened, providing people of North and West Yorkshire as well as people of Greater Manchester with better Access to East Lancashire, I was up at the Beer fest in Colne last week and spoke to so many people that came from all over the Country, and they all said the same thing, rail transport is a big issue here, and a lot of them said they would come to Pendle on a regular bases if it had better rail links and more modern and clean trains. But as you are all aware LCC Planning Officers think they know best and still want the A56 Bypass, take take up some of the missing rail link, which only 55% of the population will have access to. Your rail project will give every one the chance to travel to and from the City Regions of Manchester, Leeds and even Liverpool, as it once was. with trains possibly every 30min. What more Can I say, all I know is that LCC seems to think that everyone in East Lancashire wants the A56 Bypass and not the Railway.[/p][/quote]everybody I ask say the same as me its not financially viable. and if the train did go through to Skipton even with your train spotting mentality must know people will just go straight through nelson&colne to Skipton then bypass them both on the way back all it will do is boost the economy in Yorkshire to the detrement of nelson/colne,so please shut up,dont you think we have enough white elephants in nelson!!! ROBERTSLUMDWELLER123

Comments are closed on this article.

click2find

About cookies

We want you to enjoy your visit to our website. That's why we use cookies to enhance your experience. By staying on our website you agree to our use of cookies. Find out more about the cookies we use.

I agree