Women in North West losing out in the pay league

Burnley and Pendle Citizen: Women in North West losing out in the pay league Women in North West losing out in the pay league

WOMEN in the North West earn less than their male counterparts, new analysis suggested.

Last year, for the first time since 2008, the gap between what women earn compared to men rose, figures released by the Office for National Statistics revealed.

Hyndburn and Haslingden MP Graham Jones said: “It seems extraordinary in an age when girls are outperforming boys at school, going to university in greater numbers and running FTSE 100 companies that pay inequality still exists, but it does.

“What is really depressing is that things are going backwards on David Cameron and Nick Clegg’s watch.

“Women in Haslingden and Hyndburn deserve much better than this and they can’t afford to wait another 44 years for pay equality, and neither can Britain.”

The Labour MP continued: “When it comes to supporting women to get ahead, this government has one massive blind spot.

“Hardly surprising some may say from a Cabinet with just three women out of twenty two full members.”

A third of working women are now in low-wage jobs, and nationally a record six million women are working part-time where hourly pay is on average a third less than they could expect in a full-time job.

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7:21am Tue 8 Jul 14

BuckoTheMoose says...

Women are not earning less than men. In like for like jobs, with like for like experience, women earn exactly the same as men.

If you take average pay there is a gap. This is because men and women do different types of jobs. Men do most of the outdoor jobs where you get covered in dirt. Men do most of the skilled construction jobs driving heavy machinery. These are all highly paid jobs for obvious reasons.

When you hear 'feminists' demanding women be artificially elevated to jobs they don't traditionally do and probably didn't earn, it's never the tipper truck or sewer jobs they want, it's always the boardroom jobs with the secretaries, lunch meetings and pant suits.

Even where men and women do the same jobs, after a few years a man can be expected to be earning more. He's been at work the whole time, gaining the experience and taking advantage of the training in order to get the pay rises and the promotions.

The woman has taken a couple of years out to have kids, misses the training, doesn't keep up with the company advances, doesn't gain the same experience as her male counterpart and on her return from maternity leave, demands 'family friendly' hours so she can do the school run.

That's why there's a pay gap. It's not discrimination, it's life. Perfectly acceptable and perfectly fair, life.
Women are not earning less than men. In like for like jobs, with like for like experience, women earn exactly the same as men. If you take average pay there is a gap. This is because men and women do different types of jobs. Men do most of the outdoor jobs where you get covered in dirt. Men do most of the skilled construction jobs driving heavy machinery. These are all highly paid jobs for obvious reasons. When you hear 'feminists' demanding women be artificially elevated to jobs they don't traditionally do and probably didn't earn, it's never the tipper truck or sewer jobs they want, it's always the boardroom jobs with the secretaries, lunch meetings and pant suits. Even where men and women do the same jobs, after a few years a man can be expected to be earning more. He's been at work the whole time, gaining the experience and taking advantage of the training in order to get the pay rises and the promotions. The woman has taken a couple of years out to have kids, misses the training, doesn't keep up with the company advances, doesn't gain the same experience as her male counterpart and on her return from maternity leave, demands 'family friendly' hours so she can do the school run. That's why there's a pay gap. It's not discrimination, it's life. Perfectly acceptable and perfectly fair, life. BuckoTheMoose
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8:01pm Tue 8 Jul 14

the white witch says...

BuckoTheMoose wrote:
Women are not earning less than men. In like for like jobs, with like for like experience, women earn exactly the same as men.

If you take average pay there is a gap. This is because men and women do different types of jobs. Men do most of the outdoor jobs where you get covered in dirt. Men do most of the skilled construction jobs driving heavy machinery. These are all highly paid jobs for obvious reasons.

When you hear 'feminists' demanding women be artificially elevated to jobs they don't traditionally do and probably didn't earn, it's never the tipper truck or sewer jobs they want, it's always the boardroom jobs with the secretaries, lunch meetings and pant suits.

Even where men and women do the same jobs, after a few years a man can be expected to be earning more. He's been at work the whole time, gaining the experience and taking advantage of the training in order to get the pay rises and the promotions.

The woman has taken a couple of years out to have kids, misses the training, doesn't keep up with the company advances, doesn't gain the same experience as her male counterpart and on her return from maternity leave, demands 'family friendly' hours so she can do the school run.

That's why there's a pay gap. It's not discrimination, it's life. Perfectly acceptable and perfectly fair, life.
You have the right name Bucko cause you really are a moose.
Whats happened to equal rights for men & women ??
At the end of the day bother genders are out there working for a wage to survive in life. Get a grip Bucko
[quote][p][bold]BuckoTheMoose[/bold] wrote: Women are not earning less than men. In like for like jobs, with like for like experience, women earn exactly the same as men. If you take average pay there is a gap. This is because men and women do different types of jobs. Men do most of the outdoor jobs where you get covered in dirt. Men do most of the skilled construction jobs driving heavy machinery. These are all highly paid jobs for obvious reasons. When you hear 'feminists' demanding women be artificially elevated to jobs they don't traditionally do and probably didn't earn, it's never the tipper truck or sewer jobs they want, it's always the boardroom jobs with the secretaries, lunch meetings and pant suits. Even where men and women do the same jobs, after a few years a man can be expected to be earning more. He's been at work the whole time, gaining the experience and taking advantage of the training in order to get the pay rises and the promotions. The woman has taken a couple of years out to have kids, misses the training, doesn't keep up with the company advances, doesn't gain the same experience as her male counterpart and on her return from maternity leave, demands 'family friendly' hours so she can do the school run. That's why there's a pay gap. It's not discrimination, it's life. Perfectly acceptable and perfectly fair, life.[/p][/quote]You have the right name Bucko cause you really are a moose. Whats happened to equal rights for men & women ?? At the end of the day bother genders are out there working for a wage to survive in life. Get a grip Bucko the white witch
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9:14pm Tue 8 Jul 14

BuckoTheMoose says...

the white witch wrote:
BuckoTheMoose wrote:
Women are not earning less than men. In like for like jobs, with like for like experience, women earn exactly the same as men.

If you take average pay there is a gap. This is because men and women do different types of jobs. Men do most of the outdoor jobs where you get covered in dirt. Men do most of the skilled construction jobs driving heavy machinery. These are all highly paid jobs for obvious reasons.

When you hear 'feminists' demanding women be artificially elevated to jobs they don't traditionally do and probably didn't earn, it's never the tipper truck or sewer jobs they want, it's always the boardroom jobs with the secretaries, lunch meetings and pant suits.

Even where men and women do the same jobs, after a few years a man can be expected to be earning more. He's been at work the whole time, gaining the experience and taking advantage of the training in order to get the pay rises and the promotions.

The woman has taken a couple of years out to have kids, misses the training, doesn't keep up with the company advances, doesn't gain the same experience as her male counterpart and on her return from maternity leave, demands 'family friendly' hours so she can do the school run.

That's why there's a pay gap. It's not discrimination, it's life. Perfectly acceptable and perfectly fair, life.
You have the right name Bucko cause you really are a moose.
Whats happened to equal rights for men & women ??
At the end of the day bother genders are out there working for a wage to survive in life. Get a grip Bucko
Equal rights for men and women is perfect and I've not disputed that.

I've explained why there is a wage gap between men and women when you look at figures across the board rather than looking at men and women who do he same jobs.

Or did you not get that?

Men and women have equal rights. They already have them. By talking about a gender pay gap, people are trying to get women elevated to positions and wages they haven't earned, but their male counterparts have had to.

That's not equality now, is it?
[quote][p][bold]the white witch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BuckoTheMoose[/bold] wrote: Women are not earning less than men. In like for like jobs, with like for like experience, women earn exactly the same as men. If you take average pay there is a gap. This is because men and women do different types of jobs. Men do most of the outdoor jobs where you get covered in dirt. Men do most of the skilled construction jobs driving heavy machinery. These are all highly paid jobs for obvious reasons. When you hear 'feminists' demanding women be artificially elevated to jobs they don't traditionally do and probably didn't earn, it's never the tipper truck or sewer jobs they want, it's always the boardroom jobs with the secretaries, lunch meetings and pant suits. Even where men and women do the same jobs, after a few years a man can be expected to be earning more. He's been at work the whole time, gaining the experience and taking advantage of the training in order to get the pay rises and the promotions. The woman has taken a couple of years out to have kids, misses the training, doesn't keep up with the company advances, doesn't gain the same experience as her male counterpart and on her return from maternity leave, demands 'family friendly' hours so she can do the school run. That's why there's a pay gap. It's not discrimination, it's life. Perfectly acceptable and perfectly fair, life.[/p][/quote]You have the right name Bucko cause you really are a moose. Whats happened to equal rights for men & women ?? At the end of the day bother genders are out there working for a wage to survive in life. Get a grip Bucko[/p][/quote]Equal rights for men and women is perfect and I've not disputed that. I've explained why there is a wage gap between men and women when you look at figures across the board rather than looking at men and women who do he same jobs. Or did you not get that? Men and women have equal rights. They already have them. By talking about a gender pay gap, people are trying to get women elevated to positions and wages they haven't earned, but their male counterparts have had to. That's not equality now, is it? BuckoTheMoose
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