East Lancs business chiefs welcome fracking

Burnley and Pendle Citizen: East Lancs business chiefs welcome fracking East Lancs business chiefs welcome fracking

EAST Lancashire business leaders have welcomed the announcement that energy firm Cuadrilla will soon submit an application to commence fracking on the Fylde Coast.

Cuadrilla yesterday announced it would submit a planning application ‘before the end of the month’ to drill, frack and test the flow of gas from up to four wells in Little Plumpton.

Cuadrilla chief executive Francis Egan said: “This application could be a really important milestone for Lancashire and the UK as we seek to unlock Lancashire’s shale gas potential.”

Mike Damms, chief executive of the East Lancashire Chamber of Commerce, said: “The chamber welcomes this encouraging news.

“Businesses, especially our manufacturers who are so crucial to the economy, need the development of onshore natural gas to take place in order to give them the confidence that our energy supplies are secure in the long term.

“With the parallel development of renewable technologies, as well as nuclear, natural gas will provide a significant edge against volatile imports.”

Gary Lovatt, chairman of the Federation of Small Businesses in Lancashire, said: “Small businesses throughout the region should be pleased to hear this news.

“We are fully supportive of regulated and safety conscious shale gas extraction which can provide a significant boost to our region’s economy.”

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5:03pm Tue 20 May 14

phil kernot says...

Business will be pleased but when water £10 a litre in the future because it's all been poisoned what you going to. Do then you can't turn the clock back ,,,,,, the earth dies screaming uB 40 ,, never a truer song
Business will be pleased but when water £10 a litre in the future because it's all been poisoned what you going to. Do then you can't turn the clock back ,,,,,, the earth dies screaming uB 40 ,, never a truer song phil kernot
  • Score: 1

6:25pm Tue 20 May 14

HelmshoreMan2010 says...

So far the only evidence I have seen that fracking is bad is from American hicks trying to get huge payouts, I'm not suggesting anything of course!

I say give it a shot :)
So far the only evidence I have seen that fracking is bad is from American hicks trying to get huge payouts, I'm not suggesting anything of course! I say give it a shot :) HelmshoreMan2010
  • Score: 0

7:34pm Tue 20 May 14

Jack Herer says...

phil kernot wrote:
Business will be pleased but when water £10 a litre in the future because it's all been poisoned what you going to. Do then you can't turn the clock back ,,,,,, the earth dies screaming uB 40 ,, never a truer song
Remember coal mining?

The whole country used to be dotted with mines and it was a dirty, dangerous business.

Water never got to £10 a litre though when dirty coal mining was at its peak though. The price of water didn't change at all in fact with coal mining.

Fracking is cleaner and safer than coal mining.

As another poster has pointed out - the only ones claiming water contamination is hill billies looking for a quick buck. The fact they haven't been successful speaks volumes.

We need to face facts. We need energy. We don't want to be reliant on untrustworthy, corrupt, foreign regimes like Russia for that energy; who will threaten to cut supply on a whim. The current crisis in Ukraine is proof positive of that folly.

Fracking would undoubtedly bring huge financial benefits to Lancashire.

Now we are either stupid - believing unsubstantiated and sensationalist scare stories to ignore a gift horse in the mouth. Or we are clever - in which case we listen to science and reason, and benefit greatly, not just locally, but as a country too.

For our current energy needs, fracking is the best option. That's just the cold hard truth.
[quote][p][bold]phil kernot[/bold] wrote: Business will be pleased but when water £10 a litre in the future because it's all been poisoned what you going to. Do then you can't turn the clock back ,,,,,, the earth dies screaming uB 40 ,, never a truer song[/p][/quote]Remember coal mining? The whole country used to be dotted with mines and it was a dirty, dangerous business. Water never got to £10 a litre though when dirty coal mining was at its peak though. The price of water didn't change at all in fact with coal mining. Fracking is cleaner and safer than coal mining. As another poster has pointed out - the only ones claiming water contamination is hill billies looking for a quick buck. The fact they haven't been successful speaks volumes. We need to face facts. We need energy. We don't want to be reliant on untrustworthy, corrupt, foreign regimes like Russia for that energy; who will threaten to cut supply on a whim. The current crisis in Ukraine is proof positive of that folly. Fracking would undoubtedly bring huge financial benefits to Lancashire. Now we are either stupid - believing unsubstantiated and sensationalist scare stories to ignore a gift horse in the mouth. Or we are clever - in which case we listen to science and reason, and benefit greatly, not just locally, but as a country too. For our current energy needs, fracking is the best option. That's just the cold hard truth. Jack Herer
  • Score: 1

10:15pm Tue 20 May 14

marymarshall says...

There has never been a case of contamination of a public water supply by fracking. No one is even suggesting it. Even further if a well leaked it still wouldn't pose a problem to anyones safety. We have 2000 wells in the UK. Can anyone name the last person poisoned by one of them. Of course not. Look closer at any claim of contamination by fracking and you always find there is more to the story than environmentalists are admitting to people.

Environmentalists don't have the science on their side and so they have set out to lie to people as much as possible.
There has never been a case of contamination of a public water supply by fracking. No one is even suggesting it. Even further if a well leaked it still wouldn't pose a problem to anyones safety. We have 2000 wells in the UK. Can anyone name the last person poisoned by one of them. Of course not. Look closer at any claim of contamination by fracking and you always find there is more to the story than environmentalists are admitting to people. Environmentalists don't have the science on their side and so they have set out to lie to people as much as possible. marymarshall
  • Score: 2

2:51am Wed 21 May 14

Lord_Lucan says...

Jack Herer wrote:
phil kernot wrote:
Business will be pleased but when water £10 a litre in the future because it's all been poisoned what you going to. Do then you can't turn the clock back ,,,,,, the earth dies screaming uB 40 ,, never a truer song
Remember coal mining?

The whole country used to be dotted with mines and it was a dirty, dangerous business.

Water never got to £10 a litre though when dirty coal mining was at its peak though. The price of water didn't change at all in fact with coal mining.

Fracking is cleaner and safer than coal mining.

As another poster has pointed out - the only ones claiming water contamination is hill billies looking for a quick buck. The fact they haven't been successful speaks volumes.

We need to face facts. We need energy. We don't want to be reliant on untrustworthy, corrupt, foreign regimes like Russia for that energy; who will threaten to cut supply on a whim. The current crisis in Ukraine is proof positive of that folly.

Fracking would undoubtedly bring huge financial benefits to Lancashire.

Now we are either stupid - believing unsubstantiated and sensationalist scare stories to ignore a gift horse in the mouth. Or we are clever - in which case we listen to science and reason, and benefit greatly, not just locally, but as a country too.

For our current energy needs, fracking is the best option. That's just the cold hard truth.
Cracking is NOT the best option for our future energy needs. Nuclear energy us clearly the most efficient and least environmentally damaging option. No greenhouse gasses, and it's there for the long term.
[quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil kernot[/bold] wrote: Business will be pleased but when water £10 a litre in the future because it's all been poisoned what you going to. Do then you can't turn the clock back ,,,,,, the earth dies screaming uB 40 ,, never a truer song[/p][/quote]Remember coal mining? The whole country used to be dotted with mines and it was a dirty, dangerous business. Water never got to £10 a litre though when dirty coal mining was at its peak though. The price of water didn't change at all in fact with coal mining. Fracking is cleaner and safer than coal mining. As another poster has pointed out - the only ones claiming water contamination is hill billies looking for a quick buck. The fact they haven't been successful speaks volumes. We need to face facts. We need energy. We don't want to be reliant on untrustworthy, corrupt, foreign regimes like Russia for that energy; who will threaten to cut supply on a whim. The current crisis in Ukraine is proof positive of that folly. Fracking would undoubtedly bring huge financial benefits to Lancashire. Now we are either stupid - believing unsubstantiated and sensationalist scare stories to ignore a gift horse in the mouth. Or we are clever - in which case we listen to science and reason, and benefit greatly, not just locally, but as a country too. For our current energy needs, fracking is the best option. That's just the cold hard truth.[/p][/quote]Cracking is NOT the best option for our future energy needs. Nuclear energy us clearly the most efficient and least environmentally damaging option. No greenhouse gasses, and it's there for the long term. Lord_Lucan
  • Score: -1

7:42am Wed 21 May 14

jenkinsroy says...

Gary Lovatt, you welcome the fracking yes
how much as the government paid you to comment
on this matter I for one would like to know .??
we here in lancashire do not want why .
because this is just a money making scam put together
by the tories-and lib dem we round here will not get any
returns of this fracking or low bills this is just for their election
pot for 2015.
And another thing MR Gary Lovatt, chairman of the Federation of Small Businesses if you want it then let it be done in your backyard not our
you lot are all the same frack frack make money make money
it alright the fracking will not be done in our backyard because
my friends in government say so remember they do lie you know .
Gary Lovatt, you welcome the fracking yes how much as the government paid you to comment on this matter I for one would like to know .?? we here in lancashire do not want why . because this is just a money making scam put together by the tories-and lib dem we round here will not get any returns of this fracking or low bills this is just for their election pot for 2015. And another thing MR Gary Lovatt, chairman of the Federation of Small Businesses if you want it then let it be done in your backyard not our you lot are all the same frack frack make money make money it alright the fracking will not be done in our backyard because my friends in government say so remember they do lie you know . jenkinsroy
  • Score: 3

8:47am Wed 21 May 14

jenkinsroy says...

Jack Herer wrote:
phil kernot wrote:
Business will be pleased but when water £10 a litre in the future because it's all been poisoned what you going to. Do then you can't turn the clock back ,,,,,, the earth dies screaming uB 40 ,, never a truer song
Remember coal mining?

The whole country used to be dotted with mines and it was a dirty, dangerous business.

Water never got to £10 a litre though when dirty coal mining was at its peak though. The price of water didn't change at all in fact with coal mining.

Fracking is cleaner and safer than coal mining.

As another poster has pointed out - the only ones claiming water contamination is hill billies looking for a quick buck. The fact they haven't been successful speaks volumes.

We need to face facts. We need energy. We don't want to be reliant on untrustworthy, corrupt, foreign regimes like Russia for that energy; who will threaten to cut supply on a whim. The current crisis in Ukraine is proof positive of that folly.

Fracking would undoubtedly bring huge financial benefits to Lancashire.

Now we are either stupid - believing unsubstantiated and sensationalist scare stories to ignore a gift horse in the mouth. Or we are clever - in which case we listen to science and reason, and benefit greatly, not just locally, but as a country too.

For our current energy needs, fracking is the best option. That's just the cold hard truth.
Point 1 well jack will you let them frack in your backyard yes ore no.?
well we all know the answer to this is NO but you can frack next door
he will not mind
Point 2 it will not save us money on our bill why because the companies
that do the fracking will keep what they frack and sell it back to us at the
high prices they will demand .
Point 3 are you going to clean up all the mess they leave as there cover
our county in blowholes yes or no .?
POINT 4 The government will make money out of this by letting them
frack all over the place but they also will wash their hand when it goes
wrong if we must have fracking we the public MUST vote on this matter
not just let the government do what they want i mean every county council
should have right to say where the fracking can be done or not be done
not the government after all is the gas our in our counties not the government if we vote for it we should get they money of it do you not
agree yes or no then if it goes wrong it will be up to that county council
to clean it up yes or no.
Point 5 Also why will the government not let each council store the gas
in their area saw we can use it there why because the income they
will NOT receive form this method IS NOT ON IN THERE EYE
THEY WANT ALL THE MONEY BUT NOT THE **** OUTSIDE THEIR
HOMES .
[quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil kernot[/bold] wrote: Business will be pleased but when water £10 a litre in the future because it's all been poisoned what you going to. Do then you can't turn the clock back ,,,,,, the earth dies screaming uB 40 ,, never a truer song[/p][/quote]Remember coal mining? The whole country used to be dotted with mines and it was a dirty, dangerous business. Water never got to £10 a litre though when dirty coal mining was at its peak though. The price of water didn't change at all in fact with coal mining. Fracking is cleaner and safer than coal mining. As another poster has pointed out - the only ones claiming water contamination is hill billies looking for a quick buck. The fact they haven't been successful speaks volumes. We need to face facts. We need energy. We don't want to be reliant on untrustworthy, corrupt, foreign regimes like Russia for that energy; who will threaten to cut supply on a whim. The current crisis in Ukraine is proof positive of that folly. Fracking would undoubtedly bring huge financial benefits to Lancashire. Now we are either stupid - believing unsubstantiated and sensationalist scare stories to ignore a gift horse in the mouth. Or we are clever - in which case we listen to science and reason, and benefit greatly, not just locally, but as a country too. For our current energy needs, fracking is the best option. That's just the cold hard truth.[/p][/quote]Point 1 well jack will you let them frack in your backyard yes ore no.? well we all know the answer to this is NO but you can frack next door he will not mind Point 2 it will not save us money on our bill why because the companies that do the fracking will keep what they frack and sell it back to us at the high prices they will demand . Point 3 are you going to clean up all the mess they leave as there cover our county in blowholes yes or no .? POINT 4 The government will make money out of this by letting them frack all over the place but they also will wash their hand when it goes wrong if we must have fracking we the public MUST vote on this matter not just let the government do what they want i mean every county council should have right to say where the fracking can be done or not be done not the government after all is the gas our in our counties not the government if we vote for it we should get they money of it do you not agree yes or no then if it goes wrong it will be up to that county council to clean it up yes or no. Point 5 Also why will the government not let each council store the gas in their area saw we can use it there why because the income they will NOT receive form this method IS NOT ON IN THERE EYE THEY WANT ALL THE MONEY BUT NOT THE **** OUTSIDE THEIR HOMES . jenkinsroy
  • Score: 3

1:52pm Wed 21 May 14

Jack Herer says...

jenkinsroy wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
phil kernot wrote:
Business will be pleased but when water £10 a litre in the future because it's all been poisoned what you going to. Do then you can't turn the clock back ,,,,,, the earth dies screaming uB 40 ,, never a truer song
Remember coal mining?

The whole country used to be dotted with mines and it was a dirty, dangerous business.

Water never got to £10 a litre though when dirty coal mining was at its peak though. The price of water didn't change at all in fact with coal mining.

Fracking is cleaner and safer than coal mining.

As another poster has pointed out - the only ones claiming water contamination is hill billies looking for a quick buck. The fact they haven't been successful speaks volumes.

We need to face facts. We need energy. We don't want to be reliant on untrustworthy, corrupt, foreign regimes like Russia for that energy; who will threaten to cut supply on a whim. The current crisis in Ukraine is proof positive of that folly.

Fracking would undoubtedly bring huge financial benefits to Lancashire.

Now we are either stupid - believing unsubstantiated and sensationalist scare stories to ignore a gift horse in the mouth. Or we are clever - in which case we listen to science and reason, and benefit greatly, not just locally, but as a country too.

For our current energy needs, fracking is the best option. That's just the cold hard truth.
Point 1 well jack will you let them frack in your backyard yes ore no.?
well we all know the answer to this is NO but you can frack next door
he will not mind
Point 2 it will not save us money on our bill why because the companies
that do the fracking will keep what they frack and sell it back to us at the
high prices they will demand .
Point 3 are you going to clean up all the mess they leave as there cover
our county in blowholes yes or no .?
POINT 4 The government will make money out of this by letting them
frack all over the place but they also will wash their hand when it goes
wrong if we must have fracking we the public MUST vote on this matter
not just let the government do what they want i mean every county council
should have right to say where the fracking can be done or not be done
not the government after all is the gas our in our counties not the government if we vote for it we should get they money of it do you not
agree yes or no then if it goes wrong it will be up to that county council
to clean it up yes or no.
Point 5 Also why will the government not let each council store the gas
in their area saw we can use it there why because the income they
will NOT receive form this method IS NOT ON IN THERE EYE
THEY WANT ALL THE MONEY BUT NOT THE **** OUTSIDE THEIR
HOMES .
Well, straight off, no problems fracking in my proverbial back yard, so unfortunately you are bang wrong from the off.

As I've said before, in the 80s they drilled for oil in a field near Abbey Village. They had a big rig, the lot. There is so little mess from that afterwards you'd have serious trouble finding where it was now.

No-one is suggesting they are going to frack in the middle of housing estates. Apart from that, no real problem as far as I can see. And that's based on experience not hysteria.

Are you seriously so deluded that you think only fracking companies will make money from this? Who do you think benefits from North Sea gas and oil? Yes companies make money, but it is the government - i.e. us as a country - who makes the most.

You seem to be similarly deluded as to county councils cleaning up any mess. Did you realise that we still spend millions a year making sure old coal mines are safe and clean? It isn't county councils that pay for it. What possibly makes you that fracking, which is far safer and cleaner than coal, would be different? It wouldn't is the answer.

Lastly, why would county councils possibly be given the gas from fracking? Are they given coal? Are they given North Sea oil or gas? We have an energy infrastructure in this country, not some free for all, on a council by council basis. Your suggestion that it should be council controlled is living in cloud cuckoo land.

I don't want to appear rude, but your anti-fracking hysteria as a whole seems as mixed up as your grammar.

You seem to live in a bizarre world where the "government" are some airy-fairy organisation, hell bent on personal greed.

It may not be perfect - the last Labour government being a classic example - but the "government" are actually the people we vote for to run the country.
[quote][p][bold]jenkinsroy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil kernot[/bold] wrote: Business will be pleased but when water £10 a litre in the future because it's all been poisoned what you going to. Do then you can't turn the clock back ,,,,,, the earth dies screaming uB 40 ,, never a truer song[/p][/quote]Remember coal mining? The whole country used to be dotted with mines and it was a dirty, dangerous business. Water never got to £10 a litre though when dirty coal mining was at its peak though. The price of water didn't change at all in fact with coal mining. Fracking is cleaner and safer than coal mining. As another poster has pointed out - the only ones claiming water contamination is hill billies looking for a quick buck. The fact they haven't been successful speaks volumes. We need to face facts. We need energy. We don't want to be reliant on untrustworthy, corrupt, foreign regimes like Russia for that energy; who will threaten to cut supply on a whim. The current crisis in Ukraine is proof positive of that folly. Fracking would undoubtedly bring huge financial benefits to Lancashire. Now we are either stupid - believing unsubstantiated and sensationalist scare stories to ignore a gift horse in the mouth. Or we are clever - in which case we listen to science and reason, and benefit greatly, not just locally, but as a country too. For our current energy needs, fracking is the best option. That's just the cold hard truth.[/p][/quote]Point 1 well jack will you let them frack in your backyard yes ore no.? well we all know the answer to this is NO but you can frack next door he will not mind Point 2 it will not save us money on our bill why because the companies that do the fracking will keep what they frack and sell it back to us at the high prices they will demand . Point 3 are you going to clean up all the mess they leave as there cover our county in blowholes yes or no .? POINT 4 The government will make money out of this by letting them frack all over the place but they also will wash their hand when it goes wrong if we must have fracking we the public MUST vote on this matter not just let the government do what they want i mean every county council should have right to say where the fracking can be done or not be done not the government after all is the gas our in our counties not the government if we vote for it we should get they money of it do you not agree yes or no then if it goes wrong it will be up to that county council to clean it up yes or no. Point 5 Also why will the government not let each council store the gas in their area saw we can use it there why because the income they will NOT receive form this method IS NOT ON IN THERE EYE THEY WANT ALL THE MONEY BUT NOT THE **** OUTSIDE THEIR HOMES .[/p][/quote]Well, straight off, no problems fracking in my proverbial back yard, so unfortunately you are bang wrong from the off. As I've said before, in the 80s they drilled for oil in a field near Abbey Village. They had a big rig, the lot. There is so little mess from that afterwards you'd have serious trouble finding where it was now. No-one is suggesting they are going to frack in the middle of housing estates. Apart from that, no real problem as far as I can see. And that's based on experience not hysteria. Are you seriously so deluded that you think only fracking companies will make money from this? Who do you think benefits from North Sea gas and oil? Yes companies make money, but it is the government - i.e. us as a country - who makes the most. You seem to be similarly deluded as to county councils cleaning up any mess. Did you realise that we still spend millions a year making sure old coal mines are safe and clean? It isn't county councils that pay for it. What possibly makes you that fracking, which is far safer and cleaner than coal, would be different? It wouldn't is the answer. Lastly, why would county councils possibly be given the gas from fracking? Are they given coal? Are they given North Sea oil or gas? We have an energy infrastructure in this country, not some free for all, on a council by council basis. Your suggestion that it should be council controlled is living in cloud cuckoo land. I don't want to appear rude, but your anti-fracking hysteria as a whole seems as mixed up as your grammar. You seem to live in a bizarre world where the "government" are some airy-fairy organisation, hell bent on personal greed. It may not be perfect - the last Labour government being a classic example - but the "government" are actually the people we vote for to run the country. Jack Herer
  • Score: -1

1:54pm Wed 21 May 14

Jack Herer says...

jenkinsroy wrote:
Gary Lovatt, you welcome the fracking yes
how much as the government paid you to comment
on this matter I for one would like to know .??
we here in lancashire do not want why .
because this is just a money making scam put together
by the tories-and lib dem we round here will not get any
returns of this fracking or low bills this is just for their election
pot for 2015.
And another thing MR Gary Lovatt, chairman of the Federation of Small Businesses if you want it then let it be done in your backyard not our
you lot are all the same frack frack make money make money
it alright the fracking will not be done in our backyard because
my friends in government say so remember they do lie you know .
I hate to shatter your rant, but Labour are all for fracking too.

Go check with your local MP if you don't believe me.
[quote][p][bold]jenkinsroy[/bold] wrote: Gary Lovatt, you welcome the fracking yes how much as the government paid you to comment on this matter I for one would like to know .?? we here in lancashire do not want why . because this is just a money making scam put together by the tories-and lib dem we round here will not get any returns of this fracking or low bills this is just for their election pot for 2015. And another thing MR Gary Lovatt, chairman of the Federation of Small Businesses if you want it then let it be done in your backyard not our you lot are all the same frack frack make money make money it alright the fracking will not be done in our backyard because my friends in government say so remember they do lie you know .[/p][/quote]I hate to shatter your rant, but Labour are all for fracking too. Go check with your local MP if you don't believe me. Jack Herer
  • Score: 2

1:56pm Wed 21 May 14

Jack Herer says...

Lord_Lucan wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
phil kernot wrote:
Business will be pleased but when water £10 a litre in the future because it's all been poisoned what you going to. Do then you can't turn the clock back ,,,,,, the earth dies screaming uB 40 ,, never a truer song
Remember coal mining?

The whole country used to be dotted with mines and it was a dirty, dangerous business.

Water never got to £10 a litre though when dirty coal mining was at its peak though. The price of water didn't change at all in fact with coal mining.

Fracking is cleaner and safer than coal mining.

As another poster has pointed out - the only ones claiming water contamination is hill billies looking for a quick buck. The fact they haven't been successful speaks volumes.

We need to face facts. We need energy. We don't want to be reliant on untrustworthy, corrupt, foreign regimes like Russia for that energy; who will threaten to cut supply on a whim. The current crisis in Ukraine is proof positive of that folly.

Fracking would undoubtedly bring huge financial benefits to Lancashire.

Now we are either stupid - believing unsubstantiated and sensationalist scare stories to ignore a gift horse in the mouth. Or we are clever - in which case we listen to science and reason, and benefit greatly, not just locally, but as a country too.

For our current energy needs, fracking is the best option. That's just the cold hard truth.
Cracking is NOT the best option for our future energy needs. Nuclear energy us clearly the most efficient and least environmentally damaging option. No greenhouse gasses, and it's there for the long term.
Whilst I'm not against Nuclear per se, it ain't no magic wand Mardis Gras for our energy needs.

Remember Fukushima?
[quote][p][bold]Lord_Lucan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil kernot[/bold] wrote: Business will be pleased but when water £10 a litre in the future because it's all been poisoned what you going to. Do then you can't turn the clock back ,,,,,, the earth dies screaming uB 40 ,, never a truer song[/p][/quote]Remember coal mining? The whole country used to be dotted with mines and it was a dirty, dangerous business. Water never got to £10 a litre though when dirty coal mining was at its peak though. The price of water didn't change at all in fact with coal mining. Fracking is cleaner and safer than coal mining. As another poster has pointed out - the only ones claiming water contamination is hill billies looking for a quick buck. The fact they haven't been successful speaks volumes. We need to face facts. We need energy. We don't want to be reliant on untrustworthy, corrupt, foreign regimes like Russia for that energy; who will threaten to cut supply on a whim. The current crisis in Ukraine is proof positive of that folly. Fracking would undoubtedly bring huge financial benefits to Lancashire. Now we are either stupid - believing unsubstantiated and sensationalist scare stories to ignore a gift horse in the mouth. Or we are clever - in which case we listen to science and reason, and benefit greatly, not just locally, but as a country too. For our current energy needs, fracking is the best option. That's just the cold hard truth.[/p][/quote]Cracking is NOT the best option for our future energy needs. Nuclear energy us clearly the most efficient and least environmentally damaging option. No greenhouse gasses, and it's there for the long term.[/p][/quote]Whilst I'm not against Nuclear per se, it ain't no magic wand Mardis Gras for our energy needs. Remember Fukushima? Jack Herer
  • Score: 0

2:34pm Wed 21 May 14

jenkinsroy says...

Jack Herer wrote:
jenkinsroy wrote:
Gary Lovatt, you welcome the fracking yes
how much as the government paid you to comment
on this matter I for one would like to know .??
we here in lancashire do not want why .
because this is just a money making scam put together
by the tories-and lib dem we round here will not get any
returns of this fracking or low bills this is just for their election
pot for 2015.
And another thing MR Gary Lovatt, chairman of the Federation of Small Businesses if you want it then let it be done in your backyard not our
you lot are all the same frack frack make money make money
it alright the fracking will not be done in our backyard because
my friends in government say so remember they do lie you know .
I hate to shatter your rant, but Labour are all for fracking too.

Go check with your local MP if you don't believe me.
I HAVE CHECKED UP O.K. I DO MY HOMEWORK NOT LIKE A LOT
OF PEOPLE AND AS FOR RANTING GOOD IT MEAN YOU HAVE READ
THE COMMENT AND UNDERSTOOD IT FRACKING UNDER THIS GOVERNMENT WILL NOT WORK WITHOUT THEM ASKING ALL US VOTERS OUT HERE BUT THIS GOVERNMENT WILL NOT DO THIS THEY
ONLY HAVE EYE FOR THE MONEY THERE PARTY WILL MAKE OF THIS
NEW FORM OF ENERGY THEY DO NOT GIVE A **** ABOUT THE
COUNTY ANY MORE ALL THEY DO IS CUT SLASH AND DESTROY
AND ALL FOR WHAT MONEY MONEY .
SO YES I WILL RANT IF THAT IS WHAT IT TAKES FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU TO UNDERSTAND WE ALL HAVE A RIGHT TO OUR VOTES ON THIS MATTER THEN IF IT GOSE TITES UP IT OUR FAULT THEN
WE CANNOT BLAME ANYONE ELSE O.K.
Yes I know they are for fracking but the difference with LABOUR
is they are going to give us a VOTE on whether to fracking our county
or not .
Not just start and say tough luck you will frack in your county do as
we say in this government.
THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN LABOUR AND THIS GOVERNMENT NOW IS THIS GOVERNMENT JUST TAKE
WHERE LABOUR WILL GIVE US A VOTE AND IT WILL BE VOTED ON IN THE HOUSE NOT PUT THAW THE BACK DOOR LIKE THE TORIES DO
[quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jenkinsroy[/bold] wrote: Gary Lovatt, you welcome the fracking yes how much as the government paid you to comment on this matter I for one would like to know .?? we here in lancashire do not want why . because this is just a money making scam put together by the tories-and lib dem we round here will not get any returns of this fracking or low bills this is just for their election pot for 2015. And another thing MR Gary Lovatt, chairman of the Federation of Small Businesses if you want it then let it be done in your backyard not our you lot are all the same frack frack make money make money it alright the fracking will not be done in our backyard because my friends in government say so remember they do lie you know .[/p][/quote]I hate to shatter your rant, but Labour are all for fracking too. Go check with your local MP if you don't believe me.[/p][/quote]I HAVE CHECKED UP O.K. I DO MY HOMEWORK NOT LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE AND AS FOR RANTING GOOD IT MEAN YOU HAVE READ THE COMMENT AND UNDERSTOOD IT FRACKING UNDER THIS GOVERNMENT WILL NOT WORK WITHOUT THEM ASKING ALL US VOTERS OUT HERE BUT THIS GOVERNMENT WILL NOT DO THIS THEY ONLY HAVE EYE FOR THE MONEY THERE PARTY WILL MAKE OF THIS NEW FORM OF ENERGY THEY DO NOT GIVE A **** ABOUT THE COUNTY ANY MORE ALL THEY DO IS CUT SLASH AND DESTROY AND ALL FOR WHAT MONEY MONEY . SO YES I WILL RANT IF THAT IS WHAT IT TAKES FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU TO UNDERSTAND WE ALL HAVE A RIGHT TO OUR VOTES ON THIS MATTER THEN IF IT GOSE TITES UP IT OUR FAULT THEN WE CANNOT BLAME ANYONE ELSE O.K. Yes I know they are for fracking but the difference with LABOUR is they are going to give us a VOTE on whether to fracking our county or not . Not just start and say tough luck you will frack in your county do as we say in this government. THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN LABOUR AND THIS GOVERNMENT NOW IS THIS GOVERNMENT JUST TAKE WHERE LABOUR WILL GIVE US A VOTE AND IT WILL BE VOTED ON IN THE HOUSE NOT PUT THAW THE BACK DOOR LIKE THE TORIES DO jenkinsroy
  • Score: -1

5:01pm Wed 21 May 14

Jack Herer says...

jenkinsroy wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
jenkinsroy wrote:
Gary Lovatt, you welcome the fracking yes
how much as the government paid you to comment
on this matter I for one would like to know .??
we here in lancashire do not want why .
because this is just a money making scam put together
by the tories-and lib dem we round here will not get any
returns of this fracking or low bills this is just for their election
pot for 2015.
And another thing MR Gary Lovatt, chairman of the Federation of Small Businesses if you want it then let it be done in your backyard not our
you lot are all the same frack frack make money make money
it alright the fracking will not be done in our backyard because
my friends in government say so remember they do lie you know .
I hate to shatter your rant, but Labour are all for fracking too.

Go check with your local MP if you don't believe me.
I HAVE CHECKED UP O.K. I DO MY HOMEWORK NOT LIKE A LOT
OF PEOPLE AND AS FOR RANTING GOOD IT MEAN YOU HAVE READ
THE COMMENT AND UNDERSTOOD IT FRACKING UNDER THIS GOVERNMENT WILL NOT WORK WITHOUT THEM ASKING ALL US VOTERS OUT HERE BUT THIS GOVERNMENT WILL NOT DO THIS THEY
ONLY HAVE EYE FOR THE MONEY THERE PARTY WILL MAKE OF THIS
NEW FORM OF ENERGY THEY DO NOT GIVE A **** ABOUT THE
COUNTY ANY MORE ALL THEY DO IS CUT SLASH AND DESTROY
AND ALL FOR WHAT MONEY MONEY .
SO YES I WILL RANT IF THAT IS WHAT IT TAKES FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU TO UNDERSTAND WE ALL HAVE A RIGHT TO OUR VOTES ON THIS MATTER THEN IF IT GOSE TITES UP IT OUR FAULT THEN
WE CANNOT BLAME ANYONE ELSE O.K.
Yes I know they are for fracking but the difference with LABOUR
is they are going to give us a VOTE on whether to fracking our county
or not .
Not just start and say tough luck you will frack in your county do as
we say in this government.
THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN LABOUR AND THIS GOVERNMENT NOW IS THIS GOVERNMENT JUST TAKE
WHERE LABOUR WILL GIVE US A VOTE AND IT WILL BE VOTED ON IN THE HOUSE NOT PUT THAW THE BACK DOOR LIKE THE TORIES DO
You appear to be as deluded about Labour as you are regarding fracking.

You need to turn your CAPS lock off too. It does your cause far more harm than good.

Labour shaft the common man at least as much as the Tories. Remember Tony millionaire Blair? Or Kitty house swap Usher? The champagne socialist gravy train is one hell of a ride. But it's only for the chosen few.

The problem with Labour is that they are clueless too.The end to boom and bust? No chance. Instead it was a boom of huge proportions, with bankers aplenty knighted along the way of course.

The only vote you get from Labour is for flagrant misspending and ultimate financial doom.
[quote][p][bold]jenkinsroy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jenkinsroy[/bold] wrote: Gary Lovatt, you welcome the fracking yes how much as the government paid you to comment on this matter I for one would like to know .?? we here in lancashire do not want why . because this is just a money making scam put together by the tories-and lib dem we round here will not get any returns of this fracking or low bills this is just for their election pot for 2015. And another thing MR Gary Lovatt, chairman of the Federation of Small Businesses if you want it then let it be done in your backyard not our you lot are all the same frack frack make money make money it alright the fracking will not be done in our backyard because my friends in government say so remember they do lie you know .[/p][/quote]I hate to shatter your rant, but Labour are all for fracking too. Go check with your local MP if you don't believe me.[/p][/quote]I HAVE CHECKED UP O.K. I DO MY HOMEWORK NOT LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE AND AS FOR RANTING GOOD IT MEAN YOU HAVE READ THE COMMENT AND UNDERSTOOD IT FRACKING UNDER THIS GOVERNMENT WILL NOT WORK WITHOUT THEM ASKING ALL US VOTERS OUT HERE BUT THIS GOVERNMENT WILL NOT DO THIS THEY ONLY HAVE EYE FOR THE MONEY THERE PARTY WILL MAKE OF THIS NEW FORM OF ENERGY THEY DO NOT GIVE A **** ABOUT THE COUNTY ANY MORE ALL THEY DO IS CUT SLASH AND DESTROY AND ALL FOR WHAT MONEY MONEY . SO YES I WILL RANT IF THAT IS WHAT IT TAKES FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU TO UNDERSTAND WE ALL HAVE A RIGHT TO OUR VOTES ON THIS MATTER THEN IF IT GOSE TITES UP IT OUR FAULT THEN WE CANNOT BLAME ANYONE ELSE O.K. Yes I know they are for fracking but the difference with LABOUR is they are going to give us a VOTE on whether to fracking our county or not . Not just start and say tough luck you will frack in your county do as we say in this government. THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN LABOUR AND THIS GOVERNMENT NOW IS THIS GOVERNMENT JUST TAKE WHERE LABOUR WILL GIVE US A VOTE AND IT WILL BE VOTED ON IN THE HOUSE NOT PUT THAW THE BACK DOOR LIKE THE TORIES DO[/p][/quote]You appear to be as deluded about Labour as you are regarding fracking. You need to turn your CAPS lock off too. It does your cause far more harm than good. Labour shaft the common man at least as much as the Tories. Remember Tony millionaire Blair? Or Kitty house swap Usher? The champagne socialist gravy train is one hell of a ride. But it's only for the chosen few. The problem with Labour is that they are clueless too.The end to boom and bust? No chance. Instead it was a boom of huge proportions, with bankers aplenty knighted along the way of course. The only vote you get from Labour is for flagrant misspending and ultimate financial doom. Jack Herer
  • Score: 0

2:09pm Thu 22 May 14

jenkinsroy says...

Jack Herer wrote:
jenkinsroy wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
phil kernot wrote:
Business will be pleased but when water £10 a litre in the future because it's all been poisoned what you going to. Do then you can't turn the clock back ,,,,,, the earth dies screaming uB 40 ,, never a truer song
Remember coal mining?

The whole country used to be dotted with mines and it was a dirty, dangerous business.

Water never got to £10 a litre though when dirty coal mining was at its peak though. The price of water didn't change at all in fact with coal mining.

Fracking is cleaner and safer than coal mining.

As another poster has pointed out - the only ones claiming water contamination is hill billies looking for a quick buck. The fact they haven't been successful speaks volumes.

We need to face facts. We need energy. We don't want to be reliant on untrustworthy, corrupt, foreign regimes like Russia for that energy; who will threaten to cut supply on a whim. The current crisis in Ukraine is proof positive of that folly.

Fracking would undoubtedly bring huge financial benefits to Lancashire.

Now we are either stupid - believing unsubstantiated and sensationalist scare stories to ignore a gift horse in the mouth. Or we are clever - in which case we listen to science and reason, and benefit greatly, not just locally, but as a country too.

For our current energy needs, fracking is the best option. That's just the cold hard truth.
Point 1 well jack will you let them frack in your backyard yes ore no.?
well we all know the answer to this is NO but you can frack next door
he will not mind
Point 2 it will not save us money on our bill why because the companies
that do the fracking will keep what they frack and sell it back to us at the
high prices they will demand .
Point 3 are you going to clean up all the mess they leave as there cover
our county in blowholes yes or no .?
POINT 4 The government will make money out of this by letting them
frack all over the place but they also will wash their hand when it goes
wrong if we must have fracking we the public MUST vote on this matter
not just let the government do what they want i mean every county council
should have right to say where the fracking can be done or not be done
not the government after all is the gas our in our counties not the government if we vote for it we should get they money of it do you not
agree yes or no then if it goes wrong it will be up to that county council
to clean it up yes or no.
Point 5 Also why will the government not let each council store the gas
in their area saw we can use it there why because the income they
will NOT receive form this method IS NOT ON IN THERE EYE
THEY WANT ALL THE MONEY BUT NOT THE **** OUTSIDE THEIR
HOMES .
Well, straight off, no problems fracking in my proverbial back yard, so unfortunately you are bang wrong from the off.

As I've said before, in the 80s they drilled for oil in a field near Abbey Village. They had a big rig, the lot. There is so little mess from that afterwards you'd have serious trouble finding where it was now.

No-one is suggesting they are going to frack in the middle of housing estates. Apart from that, no real problem as far as I can see. And that's based on experience not hysteria.

Are you seriously so deluded that you think only fracking companies will make money from this? Who do you think benefits from North Sea gas and oil? Yes companies make money, but it is the government - i.e. us as a country - who makes the most.

You seem to be similarly deluded as to county councils cleaning up any mess. Did you realise that we still spend millions a year making sure old coal mines are safe and clean? It isn't county councils that pay for it. What possibly makes you that fracking, which is far safer and cleaner than coal, would be different? It wouldn't is the answer.

Lastly, why would county councils possibly be given the gas from fracking? Are they given coal? Are they given North Sea oil or gas? We have an energy infrastructure in this country, not some free for all, on a council by council basis. Your suggestion that it should be council controlled is living in cloud cuckoo land.

I don't want to appear rude, but your anti-fracking hysteria as a whole seems as mixed up as your grammar.

You seem to live in a bizarre world where the "government" are some airy-fairy organisation, hell bent on personal greed.

It may not be perfect - the last Labour government being a classic example - but the "government" are actually the people we vote for to run the country.
we will see in 2015 O.K
[quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jenkinsroy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil kernot[/bold] wrote: Business will be pleased but when water £10 a litre in the future because it's all been poisoned what you going to. Do then you can't turn the clock back ,,,,,, the earth dies screaming uB 40 ,, never a truer song[/p][/quote]Remember coal mining? The whole country used to be dotted with mines and it was a dirty, dangerous business. Water never got to £10 a litre though when dirty coal mining was at its peak though. The price of water didn't change at all in fact with coal mining. Fracking is cleaner and safer than coal mining. As another poster has pointed out - the only ones claiming water contamination is hill billies looking for a quick buck. The fact they haven't been successful speaks volumes. We need to face facts. We need energy. We don't want to be reliant on untrustworthy, corrupt, foreign regimes like Russia for that energy; who will threaten to cut supply on a whim. The current crisis in Ukraine is proof positive of that folly. Fracking would undoubtedly bring huge financial benefits to Lancashire. Now we are either stupid - believing unsubstantiated and sensationalist scare stories to ignore a gift horse in the mouth. Or we are clever - in which case we listen to science and reason, and benefit greatly, not just locally, but as a country too. For our current energy needs, fracking is the best option. That's just the cold hard truth.[/p][/quote]Point 1 well jack will you let them frack in your backyard yes ore no.? well we all know the answer to this is NO but you can frack next door he will not mind Point 2 it will not save us money on our bill why because the companies that do the fracking will keep what they frack and sell it back to us at the high prices they will demand . Point 3 are you going to clean up all the mess they leave as there cover our county in blowholes yes or no .? POINT 4 The government will make money out of this by letting them frack all over the place but they also will wash their hand when it goes wrong if we must have fracking we the public MUST vote on this matter not just let the government do what they want i mean every county council should have right to say where the fracking can be done or not be done not the government after all is the gas our in our counties not the government if we vote for it we should get they money of it do you not agree yes or no then if it goes wrong it will be up to that county council to clean it up yes or no. Point 5 Also why will the government not let each council store the gas in their area saw we can use it there why because the income they will NOT receive form this method IS NOT ON IN THERE EYE THEY WANT ALL THE MONEY BUT NOT THE **** OUTSIDE THEIR HOMES .[/p][/quote]Well, straight off, no problems fracking in my proverbial back yard, so unfortunately you are bang wrong from the off. As I've said before, in the 80s they drilled for oil in a field near Abbey Village. They had a big rig, the lot. There is so little mess from that afterwards you'd have serious trouble finding where it was now. No-one is suggesting they are going to frack in the middle of housing estates. Apart from that, no real problem as far as I can see. And that's based on experience not hysteria. Are you seriously so deluded that you think only fracking companies will make money from this? Who do you think benefits from North Sea gas and oil? Yes companies make money, but it is the government - i.e. us as a country - who makes the most. You seem to be similarly deluded as to county councils cleaning up any mess. Did you realise that we still spend millions a year making sure old coal mines are safe and clean? It isn't county councils that pay for it. What possibly makes you that fracking, which is far safer and cleaner than coal, would be different? It wouldn't is the answer. Lastly, why would county councils possibly be given the gas from fracking? Are they given coal? Are they given North Sea oil or gas? We have an energy infrastructure in this country, not some free for all, on a council by council basis. Your suggestion that it should be council controlled is living in cloud cuckoo land. I don't want to appear rude, but your anti-fracking hysteria as a whole seems as mixed up as your grammar. You seem to live in a bizarre world where the "government" are some airy-fairy organisation, hell bent on personal greed. It may not be perfect - the last Labour government being a classic example - but the "government" are actually the people we vote for to run the country.[/p][/quote]we will see in 2015 O.K jenkinsroy
  • Score: -2

2:11pm Thu 22 May 14

jenkinsroy says...

Jack Herer wrote:
jenkinsroy wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
jenkinsroy wrote:
Gary Lovatt, you welcome the fracking yes
how much as the government paid you to comment
on this matter I for one would like to know .??
we here in lancashire do not want why .
because this is just a money making scam put together
by the tories-and lib dem we round here will not get any
returns of this fracking or low bills this is just for their election
pot for 2015.
And another thing MR Gary Lovatt, chairman of the Federation of Small Businesses if you want it then let it be done in your backyard not our
you lot are all the same frack frack make money make money
it alright the fracking will not be done in our backyard because
my friends in government say so remember they do lie you know .
I hate to shatter your rant, but Labour are all for fracking too.

Go check with your local MP if you don't believe me.
I HAVE CHECKED UP O.K. I DO MY HOMEWORK NOT LIKE A LOT
OF PEOPLE AND AS FOR RANTING GOOD IT MEAN YOU HAVE READ
THE COMMENT AND UNDERSTOOD IT FRACKING UNDER THIS GOVERNMENT WILL NOT WORK WITHOUT THEM ASKING ALL US VOTERS OUT HERE BUT THIS GOVERNMENT WILL NOT DO THIS THEY
ONLY HAVE EYE FOR THE MONEY THERE PARTY WILL MAKE OF THIS
NEW FORM OF ENERGY THEY DO NOT GIVE A **** ABOUT THE
COUNTY ANY MORE ALL THEY DO IS CUT SLASH AND DESTROY
AND ALL FOR WHAT MONEY MONEY .
SO YES I WILL RANT IF THAT IS WHAT IT TAKES FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU TO UNDERSTAND WE ALL HAVE A RIGHT TO OUR VOTES ON THIS MATTER THEN IF IT GOSE TITES UP IT OUR FAULT THEN
WE CANNOT BLAME ANYONE ELSE O.K.
Yes I know they are for fracking but the difference with LABOUR
is they are going to give us a VOTE on whether to fracking our county
or not .
Not just start and say tough luck you will frack in your county do as
we say in this government.
THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN LABOUR AND THIS GOVERNMENT NOW IS THIS GOVERNMENT JUST TAKE
WHERE LABOUR WILL GIVE US A VOTE AND IT WILL BE VOTED ON IN THE HOUSE NOT PUT THAW THE BACK DOOR LIKE THE TORIES DO
You appear to be as deluded about Labour as you are regarding fracking.

You need to turn your CAPS lock off too. It does your cause far more harm than good.

Labour shaft the common man at least as much as the Tories. Remember Tony millionaire Blair? Or Kitty house swap Usher? The champagne socialist gravy train is one hell of a ride. But it's only for the chosen few.

The problem with Labour is that they are clueless too.The end to boom and bust? No chance. Instead it was a boom of huge proportions, with bankers aplenty knighted along the way of course.

The only vote you get from Labour is for flagrant misspending and ultimate financial doom.
We will see in 2015
do not forget to vote in MAY I will not
[quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jenkinsroy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jenkinsroy[/bold] wrote: Gary Lovatt, you welcome the fracking yes how much as the government paid you to comment on this matter I for one would like to know .?? we here in lancashire do not want why . because this is just a money making scam put together by the tories-and lib dem we round here will not get any returns of this fracking or low bills this is just for their election pot for 2015. And another thing MR Gary Lovatt, chairman of the Federation of Small Businesses if you want it then let it be done in your backyard not our you lot are all the same frack frack make money make money it alright the fracking will not be done in our backyard because my friends in government say so remember they do lie you know .[/p][/quote]I hate to shatter your rant, but Labour are all for fracking too. Go check with your local MP if you don't believe me.[/p][/quote]I HAVE CHECKED UP O.K. I DO MY HOMEWORK NOT LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE AND AS FOR RANTING GOOD IT MEAN YOU HAVE READ THE COMMENT AND UNDERSTOOD IT FRACKING UNDER THIS GOVERNMENT WILL NOT WORK WITHOUT THEM ASKING ALL US VOTERS OUT HERE BUT THIS GOVERNMENT WILL NOT DO THIS THEY ONLY HAVE EYE FOR THE MONEY THERE PARTY WILL MAKE OF THIS NEW FORM OF ENERGY THEY DO NOT GIVE A **** ABOUT THE COUNTY ANY MORE ALL THEY DO IS CUT SLASH AND DESTROY AND ALL FOR WHAT MONEY MONEY . SO YES I WILL RANT IF THAT IS WHAT IT TAKES FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU TO UNDERSTAND WE ALL HAVE A RIGHT TO OUR VOTES ON THIS MATTER THEN IF IT GOSE TITES UP IT OUR FAULT THEN WE CANNOT BLAME ANYONE ELSE O.K. Yes I know they are for fracking but the difference with LABOUR is they are going to give us a VOTE on whether to fracking our county or not . Not just start and say tough luck you will frack in your county do as we say in this government. THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN LABOUR AND THIS GOVERNMENT NOW IS THIS GOVERNMENT JUST TAKE WHERE LABOUR WILL GIVE US A VOTE AND IT WILL BE VOTED ON IN THE HOUSE NOT PUT THAW THE BACK DOOR LIKE THE TORIES DO[/p][/quote]You appear to be as deluded about Labour as you are regarding fracking. You need to turn your CAPS lock off too. It does your cause far more harm than good. Labour shaft the common man at least as much as the Tories. Remember Tony millionaire Blair? Or Kitty house swap Usher? The champagne socialist gravy train is one hell of a ride. But it's only for the chosen few. The problem with Labour is that they are clueless too.The end to boom and bust? No chance. Instead it was a boom of huge proportions, with bankers aplenty knighted along the way of course. The only vote you get from Labour is for flagrant misspending and ultimate financial doom.[/p][/quote]We will see in 2015 do not forget to vote in MAY I will not jenkinsroy
  • Score: -1

2:12pm Thu 22 May 14

jenkinsroy says...

Jack Herer wrote:
jenkinsroy wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
jenkinsroy wrote:
Gary Lovatt, you welcome the fracking yes
how much as the government paid you to comment
on this matter I for one would like to know .??
we here in lancashire do not want why .
because this is just a money making scam put together
by the tories-and lib dem we round here will not get any
returns of this fracking or low bills this is just for their election
pot for 2015.
And another thing MR Gary Lovatt, chairman of the Federation of Small Businesses if you want it then let it be done in your backyard not our
you lot are all the same frack frack make money make money
it alright the fracking will not be done in our backyard because
my friends in government say so remember they do lie you know .
I hate to shatter your rant, but Labour are all for fracking too.

Go check with your local MP if you don't believe me.
I HAVE CHECKED UP O.K. I DO MY HOMEWORK NOT LIKE A LOT
OF PEOPLE AND AS FOR RANTING GOOD IT MEAN YOU HAVE READ
THE COMMENT AND UNDERSTOOD IT FRACKING UNDER THIS GOVERNMENT WILL NOT WORK WITHOUT THEM ASKING ALL US VOTERS OUT HERE BUT THIS GOVERNMENT WILL NOT DO THIS THEY
ONLY HAVE EYE FOR THE MONEY THERE PARTY WILL MAKE OF THIS
NEW FORM OF ENERGY THEY DO NOT GIVE A **** ABOUT THE
COUNTY ANY MORE ALL THEY DO IS CUT SLASH AND DESTROY
AND ALL FOR WHAT MONEY MONEY .
SO YES I WILL RANT IF THAT IS WHAT IT TAKES FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU TO UNDERSTAND WE ALL HAVE A RIGHT TO OUR VOTES ON THIS MATTER THEN IF IT GOSE TITES UP IT OUR FAULT THEN
WE CANNOT BLAME ANYONE ELSE O.K.
Yes I know they are for fracking but the difference with LABOUR
is they are going to give us a VOTE on whether to fracking our county
or not .
Not just start and say tough luck you will frack in your county do as
we say in this government.
THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN LABOUR AND THIS GOVERNMENT NOW IS THIS GOVERNMENT JUST TAKE
WHERE LABOUR WILL GIVE US A VOTE AND IT WILL BE VOTED ON IN THE HOUSE NOT PUT THAW THE BACK DOOR LIKE THE TORIES DO
You appear to be as deluded about Labour as you are regarding fracking.

You need to turn your CAPS lock off too. It does your cause far more harm than good.

Labour shaft the common man at least as much as the Tories. Remember Tony millionaire Blair? Or Kitty house swap Usher? The champagne socialist gravy train is one hell of a ride. But it's only for the chosen few.

The problem with Labour is that they are clueless too.The end to boom and bust? No chance. Instead it was a boom of huge proportions, with bankers aplenty knighted along the way of course.

The only vote you get from Labour is for flagrant misspending and ultimate financial doom.
This government will go in 2015
[quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jenkinsroy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jenkinsroy[/bold] wrote: Gary Lovatt, you welcome the fracking yes how much as the government paid you to comment on this matter I for one would like to know .?? we here in lancashire do not want why . because this is just a money making scam put together by the tories-and lib dem we round here will not get any returns of this fracking or low bills this is just for their election pot for 2015. And another thing MR Gary Lovatt, chairman of the Federation of Small Businesses if you want it then let it be done in your backyard not our you lot are all the same frack frack make money make money it alright the fracking will not be done in our backyard because my friends in government say so remember they do lie you know .[/p][/quote]I hate to shatter your rant, but Labour are all for fracking too. Go check with your local MP if you don't believe me.[/p][/quote]I HAVE CHECKED UP O.K. I DO MY HOMEWORK NOT LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE AND AS FOR RANTING GOOD IT MEAN YOU HAVE READ THE COMMENT AND UNDERSTOOD IT FRACKING UNDER THIS GOVERNMENT WILL NOT WORK WITHOUT THEM ASKING ALL US VOTERS OUT HERE BUT THIS GOVERNMENT WILL NOT DO THIS THEY ONLY HAVE EYE FOR THE MONEY THERE PARTY WILL MAKE OF THIS NEW FORM OF ENERGY THEY DO NOT GIVE A **** ABOUT THE COUNTY ANY MORE ALL THEY DO IS CUT SLASH AND DESTROY AND ALL FOR WHAT MONEY MONEY . SO YES I WILL RANT IF THAT IS WHAT IT TAKES FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU TO UNDERSTAND WE ALL HAVE A RIGHT TO OUR VOTES ON THIS MATTER THEN IF IT GOSE TITES UP IT OUR FAULT THEN WE CANNOT BLAME ANYONE ELSE O.K. Yes I know they are for fracking but the difference with LABOUR is they are going to give us a VOTE on whether to fracking our county or not . Not just start and say tough luck you will frack in your county do as we say in this government. THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN LABOUR AND THIS GOVERNMENT NOW IS THIS GOVERNMENT JUST TAKE WHERE LABOUR WILL GIVE US A VOTE AND IT WILL BE VOTED ON IN THE HOUSE NOT PUT THAW THE BACK DOOR LIKE THE TORIES DO[/p][/quote]You appear to be as deluded about Labour as you are regarding fracking. You need to turn your CAPS lock off too. It does your cause far more harm than good. Labour shaft the common man at least as much as the Tories. Remember Tony millionaire Blair? Or Kitty house swap Usher? The champagne socialist gravy train is one hell of a ride. But it's only for the chosen few. The problem with Labour is that they are clueless too.The end to boom and bust? No chance. Instead it was a boom of huge proportions, with bankers aplenty knighted along the way of course. The only vote you get from Labour is for flagrant misspending and ultimate financial doom.[/p][/quote]This government will go in 2015 jenkinsroy
  • Score: -2

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