Burnley councillor calls for clampdown on speeding

A BURNLEY councillor has called for a police clampdown on cars speeding along a busy estate road.

Traffic surveys carried out in the Brunshaw area showed that cars were frequently speeding along roads at well above the 20mph limit.

But a meeting of the Burnley Three Tier Forum, comprising councillors from county, borough and parish councils, was told that police did not have the resources to tackle the problem.

In December, manual cameras in Brunshaw Avenue captured motorists doing average speeds of 29.5mph, while in Morse Street drivers were averaging 24mph.

Brunshaw’s Labour councillor, Lian Pate, said traffic calming measures introduced by Lancashire County Council had ‘achieved nothing’.

Coun Pate said: “I raised the point that it's okay to say they did a speed check and the average speed is nearly 30mph on Brunshaw Avenue, but what were they going to do about it?

“They said that the police said they didn't have the resources to enforce it. I think if they have the resources to stand there with the mobile gun they have the resources to enforce it."

The previous Conservative administration had spent £9.2million in introducing 20mph zones across the county, she added.

Coun Pate said: "They’ve put the signs up, but the police are openly saying they haven’t got the resources to enforce it, and word will get round quickly.

“Nothing has been achieved, the fact that people are driving at average speeds of 30mph in a residential area is shocking. One police officer told me he’d clocked a bus doing 44mph.

“What we need to do is stop that happening, if they came over even once and enforced it, it would calm the speeds down for a little while."

Chief Insp Debbie Howard, from Lancashire’s road policing department, said: “20mph speed limit areas are enforceable and the police can enforce them. However our key aim is to achieve compliance with the limits rather than prosecution.

“Police enforcement resulting in prosecutions is considered when all other options have been exhausted. While police resources are an issue for us, this is not the main reason for not enforcing in the Brunshaw Avenue and Morse Street areas.”

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11:34am Sun 11 May 14

Mikeee47 says...

I would like the police to demand the council and councillors deliver on their promises, I think I'll sue
I would like the police to demand the council and councillors deliver on their promises, I think I'll sue Mikeee47
  • Score: 80

11:35am Sun 11 May 14

bishbut says...

20 mph speed limits are ignored all over Nobody seems to care 80% approve of them but over 90% ignore them
20 mph speed limits are ignored all over Nobody seems to care 80% approve of them but over 90% ignore them bishbut
  • Score: 86

11:45am Sun 11 May 14

Interocitor says...

What about a clampdown on people who tailgate those who don't break the speed limit?

On second thoughts, don't bother. Less than one tailgater a month has been prosecuted in Lancashire since the law came in.
What about a clampdown on people who tailgate those who don't break the speed limit? On second thoughts, don't bother. Less than one tailgater a month has been prosecuted in Lancashire since the law came in. Interocitor
  • Score: 89

11:46am Sun 11 May 14

oneintheeye says...

The 20 mph speed limits should have always been self enforcing through traffic calming measures that are supposed to be in place to make it difficult to exceed the speed limit. This is simply a case of councils trying to do it on the cheap and then saying its somone elses fault that their measures are not working.
The 20 mph speed limits should have always been self enforcing through traffic calming measures that are supposed to be in place to make it difficult to exceed the speed limit. This is simply a case of councils trying to do it on the cheap and then saying its somone elses fault that their measures are not working. oneintheeye
  • Score: 87

12:36pm Sun 11 May 14

Bluelizzy says...

"Coun Pate said: "They’ve put the signs up, but the police are openly saying they haven’t got the resources to enforce it, and word will get round quickly."
Well it will now Councillor.
"Coun Pate said: "They’ve put the signs up, but the police are openly saying they haven’t got the resources to enforce it, and word will get round quickly." Well it will now Councillor. Bluelizzy
  • Score: 87

5:30pm Sun 11 May 14

Mikeee47 says...

how many of you see the police racing over them, and not when theyre on a call out ive had them up my ar$e on 20 mph zones trying to intimidate me to go faster, corrupt untrustworthy police forces all over the county, and getting worse
how many of you see the police racing over them, and not when theyre on a call out ive had them up my ar$e on 20 mph zones trying to intimidate me to go faster, corrupt untrustworthy police forces all over the county, and getting worse Mikeee47
  • Score: 73

7:23pm Sun 11 May 14

ConcernedOssy says...

YET ANOTHER HOPEFULLY VOTE CATCHING STATEMENT FROM A REVERED CLOWNCILLOR. !!!!!
YET ANOTHER HOPEFULLY VOTE CATCHING STATEMENT FROM A REVERED CLOWNCILLOR. !!!!! ConcernedOssy
  • Score: 83

9:32pm Sun 11 May 14

Steven Seagull says...

Mikeee47 wrote:
how many of you see the police racing over them, and not when theyre on a call out ive had them up my ar$e on 20 mph zones trying to intimidate me to go faster, corrupt untrustworthy police forces all over the county, and getting worse
Oh dear Mikeeeeeee, you haven't had yet ANOTHER fixed penalty ticket for using your mobile phone whilst driving have you?

If you felt intimidated why didn't you pull over, clock the registration number of the cop car and make a complaint then?.........the reason you'd didn't is because it didn't actually happen did it? You're rather good at making up negative sensational stories about the cops aren't you? You should work for the Dail Mail.

Either that or you could just grow a pair you limp wristed bell sniff.
[quote][p][bold]Mikeee47[/bold] wrote: how many of you see the police racing over them, and not when theyre on a call out ive had them up my ar$e on 20 mph zones trying to intimidate me to go faster, corrupt untrustworthy police forces all over the county, and getting worse[/p][/quote]Oh dear Mikeeeeeee, you haven't had yet ANOTHER fixed penalty ticket for using your mobile phone whilst driving have you? If you felt intimidated why didn't you pull over, clock the registration number of the cop car and make a complaint then?.........the reason you'd didn't is because it didn't actually happen did it? You're rather good at making up negative sensational stories about the cops aren't you? You should work for the Dail Mail. Either that or you could just grow a pair you limp wristed bell sniff. Steven Seagull
  • Score: 76

9:41pm Sun 11 May 14

Steven Seagull says...

Interocitor wrote:
What about a clampdown on people who tailgate those who don't break the speed limit?

On second thoughts, don't bother. Less than one tailgater a month has been prosecuted in Lancashire since the law came in.
Serious non confrontational question Interocitor. How would you Police the issue of tailgating on just Lancashire's roads alone?
Before you answer please consider that there are 5 motorways, numerous arterial duel carriageways and umpteen A roads and minor roads, just in Lancashire.

Please also consider the actual numbers of Police that currently have the time to target this particular annoyance on the roads. And also take into account the hundreds of officers that have been lost in Lancashire through retirement and have not been replaced.
[quote][p][bold]Interocitor[/bold] wrote: What about a clampdown on people who tailgate those who don't break the speed limit? On second thoughts, don't bother. Less than one tailgater a month has been prosecuted in Lancashire since the law came in.[/p][/quote]Serious non confrontational question Interocitor. How would you Police the issue of tailgating on just Lancashire's roads alone? Before you answer please consider that there are 5 motorways, numerous arterial duel carriageways and umpteen A roads and minor roads, just in Lancashire. Please also consider the actual numbers of Police that currently have the time to target this particular annoyance on the roads. And also take into account the hundreds of officers that have been lost in Lancashire through retirement and have not been replaced. Steven Seagull
  • Score: -42

10:51pm Sun 11 May 14

fedup with your lies says...

Steven Seagull wrote:
Mikeee47 wrote:
how many of you see the police racing over them, and not when theyre on a call out ive had them up my ar$e on 20 mph zones trying to intimidate me to go faster, corrupt untrustworthy police forces all over the county, and getting worse
Oh dear Mikeeeeeee, you haven't had yet ANOTHER fixed penalty ticket for using your mobile phone whilst driving have you?

If you felt intimidated why didn't you pull over, clock the registration number of the cop car and make a complaint then?.........the reason you'd didn't is because it didn't actually happen did it? You're rather good at making up negative sensational stories about the cops aren't you? You should work for the Dail Mail.

Either that or you could just grow a pair you limp wristed bell sniff.
Muggers we know you are one of the boys in blue but no need to defend them at every opportunity.
[quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mikeee47[/bold] wrote: how many of you see the police racing over them, and not when theyre on a call out ive had them up my ar$e on 20 mph zones trying to intimidate me to go faster, corrupt untrustworthy police forces all over the county, and getting worse[/p][/quote]Oh dear Mikeeeeeee, you haven't had yet ANOTHER fixed penalty ticket for using your mobile phone whilst driving have you? If you felt intimidated why didn't you pull over, clock the registration number of the cop car and make a complaint then?.........the reason you'd didn't is because it didn't actually happen did it? You're rather good at making up negative sensational stories about the cops aren't you? You should work for the Dail Mail. Either that or you could just grow a pair you limp wristed bell sniff.[/p][/quote]Muggers we know you are one of the boys in blue but no need to defend them at every opportunity. fedup with your lies
  • Score: 77

10:53pm Sun 11 May 14

fedup with your lies says...

It seems coun pates is looking for some votes. Not many people trust councillors much so your not getting my vote either.
It seems coun pates is looking for some votes. Not many people trust councillors much so your not getting my vote either. fedup with your lies
  • Score: 81

11:34pm Sun 11 May 14

Steven Seagull says...

fedup with your lies wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
Mikeee47 wrote:
how many of you see the police racing over them, and not when theyre on a call out ive had them up my ar$e on 20 mph zones trying to intimidate me to go faster, corrupt untrustworthy police forces all over the county, and getting worse
Oh dear Mikeeeeeee, you haven't had yet ANOTHER fixed penalty ticket for using your mobile phone whilst driving have you?

If you felt intimidated why didn't you pull over, clock the registration number of the cop car and make a complaint then?.........the reason you'd didn't is because it didn't actually happen did it? You're rather good at making up negative sensational stories about the cops aren't you? You should work for the Dail Mail.

Either that or you could just grow a pair you limp wristed bell sniff.
Muggers we know you are one of the boys in blue but no need to defend them at every opportunity.
As previously stated, I'm not one but have lots of family that are.

See my post to Interocitor for a serious question.

I'm not lying when I say you'd actually be shocked if you knew how few of them were actually out there.
[quote][p][bold]fedup with your lies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mikeee47[/bold] wrote: how many of you see the police racing over them, and not when theyre on a call out ive had them up my ar$e on 20 mph zones trying to intimidate me to go faster, corrupt untrustworthy police forces all over the county, and getting worse[/p][/quote]Oh dear Mikeeeeeee, you haven't had yet ANOTHER fixed penalty ticket for using your mobile phone whilst driving have you? If you felt intimidated why didn't you pull over, clock the registration number of the cop car and make a complaint then?.........the reason you'd didn't is because it didn't actually happen did it? You're rather good at making up negative sensational stories about the cops aren't you? You should work for the Dail Mail. Either that or you could just grow a pair you limp wristed bell sniff.[/p][/quote]Muggers we know you are one of the boys in blue but no need to defend them at every opportunity.[/p][/quote]As previously stated, I'm not one but have lots of family that are. See my post to Interocitor for a serious question. I'm not lying when I say you'd actually be shocked if you knew how few of them were actually out there. Steven Seagull
  • Score: -57

11:36pm Sun 11 May 14

Steven11 says...

Is councillor pate an Asian councillor ? (Just asking )
Is councillor pate an Asian councillor ? (Just asking ) Steven11
  • Score: 83

6:24am Mon 12 May 14

wilddog says...

Stand there with a speed gun or investigate a mugging? hmmm, let me think.......... Councils fetch the 20 mph and expect the police to enforce it. Never gonna happen. Police it yourselfs!
Stand there with a speed gun or investigate a mugging? hmmm, let me think.......... Councils fetch the 20 mph and expect the police to enforce it. Never gonna happen. Police it yourselfs! wilddog
  • Score: 76

9:20am Mon 12 May 14

TONY WALES says...

Steven11 wrote:
Is councillor pate an Asian councillor ? (Just asking )
I don''t think so!!!!

An Asian councillor would not say anything, it case his taxi driving mates, (some of the worst offenders), would be upset.
[quote][p][bold]Steven11[/bold] wrote: Is councillor pate an Asian councillor ? (Just asking )[/p][/quote]I don''t think so!!!! An Asian councillor would not say anything, it case his taxi driving mates, (some of the worst offenders), would be upset. TONY WALES
  • Score: 82

11:06am Mon 12 May 14

fedup with your lies says...

Steven11 wrote:
Is councillor pate an Asian councillor ? (Just asking )
Does it matter what race the councillor is, I think not coz they all pi$$ in the same pot. I really do think we need to keep race n religion out when commenting. Just my opinion, I know many will disagree!!!
[quote][p][bold]Steven11[/bold] wrote: Is councillor pate an Asian councillor ? (Just asking )[/p][/quote]Does it matter what race the councillor is, I think not coz they all pi$$ in the same pot. I really do think we need to keep race n religion out when commenting. Just my opinion, I know many will disagree!!! fedup with your lies
  • Score: 71

3:34pm Mon 12 May 14

slants says...

bishbut wrote:
20 mph speed limits are ignored all over Nobody seems to care 80% approve of them but over 90% ignore them
and where do you gleam this little statistic ???probably off the same idiots that voted for the 20 mph.
[quote][p][bold]bishbut[/bold] wrote: 20 mph speed limits are ignored all over Nobody seems to care 80% approve of them but over 90% ignore them[/p][/quote]and where do you gleam this little statistic ???probably off the same idiots that voted for the 20 mph. slants
  • Score: 72

9:29pm Mon 12 May 14

psch says...

The roads have been 30 mph for donkeys year, cars have better brakes and are designed to be safer - blanket 20 mph illogical - no wonder these anti car zealots are ignored.
Don't play the safety card - roads are for vehicles
The roads have been 30 mph for donkeys year, cars have better brakes and are designed to be safer - blanket 20 mph illogical - no wonder these anti car zealots are ignored. Don't play the safety card - roads are for vehicles psch
  • Score: 74

12:29pm Tue 13 May 14

ConcernedOssy says...

Steven11 wrote:
Is councillor pate an Asian councillor ? (Just asking )
NO !! that would be pate-L !!! LOL
[quote][p][bold]Steven11[/bold] wrote: Is councillor pate an Asian councillor ? (Just asking )[/p][/quote]NO !! that would be pate-L !!! LOL ConcernedOssy
  • Score: 74

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