‘Language barrier' fear over Lancashire carers

Burnley and Pendle Citizen: King’s College London has said that 20 per cent of all care workers in the UK are migrant workers King’s College London has said that 20 per cent of all care workers in the UK are migrant workers

CONCERNS have been raised about care workers who do not speak enough English to offer an adequate standard of care.

King’s College London has said that 20 per cent of all care workers in the UK are migrant workers.

Dr Shereen Hussein, scientific adviser to the Department of Health, has said that agencies should ensure people recruited as carers can speak English before placing them in vulnerable people’s homes.

It is feared that language barriers could lead to bad care, neglect, or even abuse.

It has also been suggested that elderly people from minority ethnic backgrounds may encounter language barriers if their standard of English is not good enough to communicate with their care workers.

Lancashire County Council said it was aware of the issue, but had not experienced any significant problems. 

A spokesman said: “While local homecare providers will employ some carers who are of non-UK origin, there have been no formal concerns raised over their language skills.

“However, we continuously monitor the standard of homecare across the county, and communication is one of the issues we would take into account.

“If people who use homecare services do not have English as a first language, we include that as part of their social care assessment and support plan, and make sure their homecare agency has carer workers who can talk to them.

And, for example, in areas with a significant Asian population, agencies tend to employ carer workers from the relevant community who have the appropriate language skills.”

Blackburn with Darwen Council was unable to comment on the issue.

But Mohammed Khan, Blackburn Council’s executive member for the Health and Adult Social Care, said: “I think it’s very important for people to be able to understand each other. Language is very important on both sides.”

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6:02pm Thu 8 May 14

ConcernedOssy says...

NOW !!! THAT'S REALLY A BIG SURPRISE ..
NOW !!! THAT'S REALLY A BIG SURPRISE .. ConcernedOssy
  • Score: 8

6:20pm Thu 8 May 14

Stone Island: says...

Immigrants shouldn't be allowed to work in this country, unless they can speak the language to a reasonable standard. It's as simple as that.

If I moved to a foreign country - and I may still do, as this one is going to the dogs - the first thing I would do, would be to learn the local language. I think it would be ignorant not to do so.
Immigrants shouldn't be allowed to work in this country, unless they can speak the language to a reasonable standard. It's as simple as that. If I moved to a foreign country - and I may still do, as this one is going to the dogs - the first thing I would do, would be to learn the local language. I think it would be ignorant not to do so. Stone Island:
  • Score: 23

6:24pm Thu 8 May 14

glossopkid says...

"Lancashire County Council said it was aware of the issue, but had not experienced any significant problems"

Of course Lcc are aware of the issue but they would rather pay payments through the contracts for our most vulnerable. Is LCC bothered that the elderly or disabled are not receiving the best services. Nah I doubt very much they are.
"Lancashire County Council said it was aware of the issue, but had not experienced any significant problems" Of course Lcc are aware of the issue but they would rather pay payments through the contracts for our most vulnerable. Is LCC bothered that the elderly or disabled are not receiving the best services. Nah I doubt very much they are. glossopkid
  • Score: 17

7:14pm Thu 8 May 14

ConcernedOssy says...

glossopkid wrote:
"Lancashire County Council said it was aware of the issue, but had not experienced any significant problems"

Of course Lcc are aware of the issue but they would rather pay payments through the contracts for our most vulnerable. Is LCC bothered that the elderly or disabled are not receiving the best services. Nah I doubt very much they are.
LCC will be aware,because for many working there English is only a second language !! Stone island is quite right, it is respect & courtesy to speak or at least make an effort to learn the language and laws of your chosen country whoever it may be. It should also be a condition of employment, especially in key services !!!
[quote][p][bold]glossopkid[/bold] wrote: "Lancashire County Council said it was aware of the issue, but had not experienced any significant problems" Of course Lcc are aware of the issue but they would rather pay payments through the contracts for our most vulnerable. Is LCC bothered that the elderly or disabled are not receiving the best services. Nah I doubt very much they are.[/p][/quote]LCC will be aware,because for many working there English is only a second language !! Stone island is quite right, it is respect & courtesy to speak or at least make an effort to learn the language and laws of your chosen country whoever it may be. It should also be a condition of employment, especially in key services !!! ConcernedOssy
  • Score: 11

7:19pm Thu 8 May 14

tajmahalovertheoldmarket says...

Radical comment here, readers, but what about it making it compulsory that anybody who comes to the UK to either receive care, or to provide it, can speak English proficiently? Problem over.
Radical comment here, readers, but what about it making it compulsory that anybody who comes to the UK to either receive care, or to provide it, can speak English proficiently? Problem over. tajmahalovertheoldmarket
  • Score: 15

7:28pm Thu 8 May 14

Stone Island: says...

tajmahalovertheoldma
rket
wrote:
Radical comment here, readers, but what about it making it compulsory that anybody who comes to the UK to either receive care, or to provide it, can speak English proficiently? Problem over.
That would be the most sensible thing to do. However, the UK doesn't do sensible.
[quote][p][bold]tajmahalovertheoldma rket[/bold] wrote: Radical comment here, readers, but what about it making it compulsory that anybody who comes to the UK to either receive care, or to provide it, can speak English proficiently? Problem over.[/p][/quote]That would be the most sensible thing to do. However, the UK doesn't do sensible. Stone Island:
  • Score: 11

7:55pm Thu 8 May 14

glossopkid says...

ConcernedOssy wrote:
glossopkid wrote:
"Lancashire County Council said it was aware of the issue, but had not experienced any significant problems"

Of course Lcc are aware of the issue but they would rather pay payments through the contracts for our most vulnerable. Is LCC bothered that the elderly or disabled are not receiving the best services. Nah I doubt very much they are.
LCC will be aware,because for many working there English is only a second language !! Stone island is quite right, it is respect & courtesy to speak or at least make an effort to learn the language and laws of your chosen country whoever it may be. It should also be a condition of employment, especially in key services !!!
My point exactly, LCC SHOULD NOT PAY PEANUTS TO CARE PROVIDORS, WHO IN TURN EMPLOY people who really are not up to the job, if they cannot speak the language.
[quote][p][bold]ConcernedOssy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]glossopkid[/bold] wrote: "Lancashire County Council said it was aware of the issue, but had not experienced any significant problems" Of course Lcc are aware of the issue but they would rather pay payments through the contracts for our most vulnerable. Is LCC bothered that the elderly or disabled are not receiving the best services. Nah I doubt very much they are.[/p][/quote]LCC will be aware,because for many working there English is only a second language !! Stone island is quite right, it is respect & courtesy to speak or at least make an effort to learn the language and laws of your chosen country whoever it may be. It should also be a condition of employment, especially in key services !!![/p][/quote]My point exactly, LCC SHOULD NOT PAY PEANUTS TO CARE PROVIDORS, WHO IN TURN EMPLOY people who really are not up to the job, if they cannot speak the language. glossopkid
  • Score: 12

8:08pm Thu 8 May 14

ConcernedOssy says...

glossopkid wrote:
ConcernedOssy wrote:
glossopkid wrote:
"Lancashire County Council said it was aware of the issue, but had not experienced any significant problems"

Of course Lcc are aware of the issue but they would rather pay payments through the contracts for our most vulnerable. Is LCC bothered that the elderly or disabled are not receiving the best services. Nah I doubt very much they are.
LCC will be aware,because for many working there English is only a second language !! Stone island is quite right, it is respect & courtesy to speak or at least make an effort to learn the language and laws of your chosen country whoever it may be. It should also be a condition of employment, especially in key services !!!
My point exactly, LCC SHOULD NOT PAY PEANUTS TO CARE PROVIDORS, WHO IN TURN EMPLOY people who really are not up to the job, if they cannot speak the language.
You've certainly got an experienced understanding of the subject,perhaps like myself, based on personal experience via family members. This situation like Many other problems has been left to freewheel and run unchecked for far too long. Cheapest possible always has repercussions !!!
[quote][p][bold]glossopkid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ConcernedOssy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]glossopkid[/bold] wrote: "Lancashire County Council said it was aware of the issue, but had not experienced any significant problems" Of course Lcc are aware of the issue but they would rather pay payments through the contracts for our most vulnerable. Is LCC bothered that the elderly or disabled are not receiving the best services. Nah I doubt very much they are.[/p][/quote]LCC will be aware,because for many working there English is only a second language !! Stone island is quite right, it is respect & courtesy to speak or at least make an effort to learn the language and laws of your chosen country whoever it may be. It should also be a condition of employment, especially in key services !!![/p][/quote]My point exactly, LCC SHOULD NOT PAY PEANUTS TO CARE PROVIDORS, WHO IN TURN EMPLOY people who really are not up to the job, if they cannot speak the language.[/p][/quote]You've certainly got an experienced understanding of the subject,perhaps like myself, based on personal experience via family members. This situation like Many other problems has been left to freewheel and run unchecked for far too long. Cheapest possible always has repercussions !!! ConcernedOssy
  • Score: 9

8:15pm Thu 8 May 14

glossopkid says...

ConcernedOssy wrote:
glossopkid wrote:
ConcernedOssy wrote:
glossopkid wrote:
"Lancashire County Council said it was aware of the issue, but had not experienced any significant problems"

Of course Lcc are aware of the issue but they would rather pay payments through the contracts for our most vulnerable. Is LCC bothered that the elderly or disabled are not receiving the best services. Nah I doubt very much they are.
LCC will be aware,because for many working there English is only a second language !! Stone island is quite right, it is respect & courtesy to speak or at least make an effort to learn the language and laws of your chosen country whoever it may be. It should also be a condition of employment, especially in key services !!!
My point exactly, LCC SHOULD NOT PAY PEANUTS TO CARE PROVIDORS, WHO IN TURN EMPLOY people who really are not up to the job, if they cannot speak the language.
You've certainly got an experienced understanding of the subject,perhaps like myself, based on personal experience via family members. This situation like Many other problems has been left to freewheel and run unchecked for far too long. Cheapest possible always has repercussions !!!
I really don't think this situation is unchecked as you say. Like I said LCC DO NOT CARE WHEN IT COMES TO THE ELDERLY OR DISABLED. Lcc should cut some of the high salaries they pay some of the top cats and use it for the assessed need in the county.
[quote][p][bold]ConcernedOssy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]glossopkid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ConcernedOssy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]glossopkid[/bold] wrote: "Lancashire County Council said it was aware of the issue, but had not experienced any significant problems" Of course Lcc are aware of the issue but they would rather pay payments through the contracts for our most vulnerable. Is LCC bothered that the elderly or disabled are not receiving the best services. Nah I doubt very much they are.[/p][/quote]LCC will be aware,because for many working there English is only a second language !! Stone island is quite right, it is respect & courtesy to speak or at least make an effort to learn the language and laws of your chosen country whoever it may be. It should also be a condition of employment, especially in key services !!![/p][/quote]My point exactly, LCC SHOULD NOT PAY PEANUTS TO CARE PROVIDORS, WHO IN TURN EMPLOY people who really are not up to the job, if they cannot speak the language.[/p][/quote]You've certainly got an experienced understanding of the subject,perhaps like myself, based on personal experience via family members. This situation like Many other problems has been left to freewheel and run unchecked for far too long. Cheapest possible always has repercussions !!![/p][/quote]I really don't think this situation is unchecked as you say. Like I said LCC DO NOT CARE WHEN IT COMES TO THE ELDERLY OR DISABLED. Lcc should cut some of the high salaries they pay some of the top cats and use it for the assessed need in the county. glossopkid
  • Score: 8

8:24pm Thu 8 May 14

Excluded again says...

One of the consequences of taking care out from local authorities and handing it to private sector companies who are in the job to make a profit.

The private companies are less concerned about whether staff can speak English or are adequately trained than whether they will work for peanuts on zero hours contracts. If you are willing to do this, then you are in.

Councils no longer employ care staff - they are forced to give contracts to private companies who employ care staff. And that is where the blame lies.
One of the consequences of taking care out from local authorities and handing it to private sector companies who are in the job to make a profit. The private companies are less concerned about whether staff can speak English or are adequately trained than whether they will work for peanuts on zero hours contracts. If you are willing to do this, then you are in. Councils no longer employ care staff - they are forced to give contracts to private companies who employ care staff. And that is where the blame lies. Excluded again
  • Score: 7

9:06pm Thu 8 May 14

ConcernedOssy says...

glossopkid wrote:
ConcernedOssy wrote:
glossopkid wrote:
ConcernedOssy wrote:
glossopkid wrote:
"Lancashire County Council said it was aware of the issue, but had not experienced any significant problems"

Of course Lcc are aware of the issue but they would rather pay payments through the contracts for our most vulnerable. Is LCC bothered that the elderly or disabled are not receiving the best services. Nah I doubt very much they are.
LCC will be aware,because for many working there English is only a second language !! Stone island is quite right, it is respect & courtesy to speak or at least make an effort to learn the language and laws of your chosen country whoever it may be. It should also be a condition of employment, especially in key services !!!
My point exactly, LCC SHOULD NOT PAY PEANUTS TO CARE PROVIDORS, WHO IN TURN EMPLOY people who really are not up to the job, if they cannot speak the language.
You've certainly got an experienced understanding of the subject,perhaps like myself, based on personal experience via family members. This situation like Many other problems has been left to freewheel and run unchecked for far too long. Cheapest possible always has repercussions !!!
I really don't think this situation is unchecked as you say. Like I said LCC DO NOT CARE WHEN IT COMES TO THE ELDERLY OR DISABLED. Lcc should cut some of the high salaries they pay some of the top cats and use it for the assessed need in the county.
My Experience is based on a 40yr Old severely disable person MOST CERTAINLY NOT ELDERLY but as you say they just don't care period
[quote][p][bold]glossopkid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ConcernedOssy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]glossopkid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ConcernedOssy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]glossopkid[/bold] wrote: "Lancashire County Council said it was aware of the issue, but had not experienced any significant problems" Of course Lcc are aware of the issue but they would rather pay payments through the contracts for our most vulnerable. Is LCC bothered that the elderly or disabled are not receiving the best services. Nah I doubt very much they are.[/p][/quote]LCC will be aware,because for many working there English is only a second language !! Stone island is quite right, it is respect & courtesy to speak or at least make an effort to learn the language and laws of your chosen country whoever it may be. It should also be a condition of employment, especially in key services !!![/p][/quote]My point exactly, LCC SHOULD NOT PAY PEANUTS TO CARE PROVIDORS, WHO IN TURN EMPLOY people who really are not up to the job, if they cannot speak the language.[/p][/quote]You've certainly got an experienced understanding of the subject,perhaps like myself, based on personal experience via family members. This situation like Many other problems has been left to freewheel and run unchecked for far too long. Cheapest possible always has repercussions !!![/p][/quote]I really don't think this situation is unchecked as you say. Like I said LCC DO NOT CARE WHEN IT COMES TO THE ELDERLY OR DISABLED. Lcc should cut some of the high salaries they pay some of the top cats and use it for the assessed need in the county.[/p][/quote]My Experience is based on a 40yr Old severely disable person MOST CERTAINLY NOT ELDERLY but as you say they just don't care period ConcernedOssy
  • Score: 5

9:08pm Thu 8 May 14

tkaay says...

Makes me laugh, reading the comments from the ignorant posters here. It has also to be said that this is a poor piece of journalism, but that's to be expected from these jokers at the LET.

So, for all of those ignorant people out there who are being duped by their misunderstanding and propaganda, here's the truth:

These "concerns" were raised a few days ago (well done LET, you managed to copy and paste a few paragraphs), but were related to workers from the European mainland, not migrants from outside the EU.

The usual suspects jumping up and down about migrants that should learn English before coming to the UK should be aware that ALL migrants from outside the EU are subject to passing English tests BEFORE their visa is issued and BEFORE they arrive in your beloved country.

It's your European friends that are the subject here, so if you feel aggrieved, look closer to your borders before pointing the finger.
Makes me laugh, reading the comments from the ignorant posters here. It has also to be said that this is a poor piece of journalism, but that's to be expected from these jokers at the LET. So, for all of those ignorant people out there who are being duped by their misunderstanding and propaganda, here's the truth: These "concerns" were raised a few days ago (well done LET, you managed to copy and paste a few paragraphs), but were related to workers from the European mainland, not migrants from outside the EU. The usual suspects jumping up and down about migrants that should learn English before coming to the UK should be aware that ALL migrants from outside the EU are subject to passing English tests BEFORE their visa is issued and BEFORE they arrive in your beloved country. It's your European friends that are the subject here, so if you feel aggrieved, look closer to your borders before pointing the finger. tkaay
  • Score: -5

9:27pm Thu 8 May 14

fedup with your lies says...

glossopkid wrote:
ConcernedOssy wrote:
glossopkid wrote:
ConcernedOssy wrote:
glossopkid wrote:
"Lancashire County Council said it was aware of the issue, but had not experienced any significant problems"

Of course Lcc are aware of the issue but they would rather pay payments through the contracts for our most vulnerable. Is LCC bothered that the elderly or disabled are not receiving the best services. Nah I doubt very much they are.
LCC will be aware,because for many working there English is only a second language !! Stone island is quite right, it is respect & courtesy to speak or at least make an effort to learn the language and laws of your chosen country whoever it may be. It should also be a condition of employment, especially in key services !!!
My point exactly, LCC SHOULD NOT PAY PEANUTS TO CARE PROVIDORS, WHO IN TURN EMPLOY people who really are not up to the job, if they cannot speak the language.
You've certainly got an experienced understanding of the subject,perhaps like myself, based on personal experience via family members. This situation like Many other problems has been left to freewheel and run unchecked for far too long. Cheapest possible always has repercussions !!!
I really don't think this situation is unchecked as you say. Like I said LCC DO NOT CARE WHEN IT COMES TO THE ELDERLY OR DISABLED. Lcc should cut some of the high salaries they pay some of the top cats and use it for the assessed need in the county.
Totally agree !!!!!
[quote][p][bold]glossopkid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ConcernedOssy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]glossopkid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ConcernedOssy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]glossopkid[/bold] wrote: "Lancashire County Council said it was aware of the issue, but had not experienced any significant problems" Of course Lcc are aware of the issue but they would rather pay payments through the contracts for our most vulnerable. Is LCC bothered that the elderly or disabled are not receiving the best services. Nah I doubt very much they are.[/p][/quote]LCC will be aware,because for many working there English is only a second language !! Stone island is quite right, it is respect & courtesy to speak or at least make an effort to learn the language and laws of your chosen country whoever it may be. It should also be a condition of employment, especially in key services !!![/p][/quote]My point exactly, LCC SHOULD NOT PAY PEANUTS TO CARE PROVIDORS, WHO IN TURN EMPLOY people who really are not up to the job, if they cannot speak the language.[/p][/quote]You've certainly got an experienced understanding of the subject,perhaps like myself, based on personal experience via family members. This situation like Many other problems has been left to freewheel and run unchecked for far too long. Cheapest possible always has repercussions !!![/p][/quote]I really don't think this situation is unchecked as you say. Like I said LCC DO NOT CARE WHEN IT COMES TO THE ELDERLY OR DISABLED. Lcc should cut some of the high salaries they pay some of the top cats and use it for the assessed need in the county.[/p][/quote]Totally agree !!!!! fedup with your lies
  • Score: 4

7:15am Fri 9 May 14

wilddog says...

tkaay wrote:
Makes me laugh, reading the comments from the ignorant posters here. It has also to be said that this is a poor piece of journalism, but that's to be expected from these jokers at the LET.

So, for all of those ignorant people out there who are being duped by their misunderstanding and propaganda, here's the truth:

These "concerns" were raised a few days ago (well done LET, you managed to copy and paste a few paragraphs), but were related to workers from the European mainland, not migrants from outside the EU.

The usual suspects jumping up and down about migrants that should learn English before coming to the UK should be aware that ALL migrants from outside the EU are subject to passing English tests BEFORE their visa is issued and BEFORE they arrive in your beloved country.

It's your European friends that are the subject here, so if you feel aggrieved, look closer to your borders before pointing the finger.
you playing the racist card again when no one has mentioned anything other than poor english speaking? Your pathetic!
[quote][p][bold]tkaay[/bold] wrote: Makes me laugh, reading the comments from the ignorant posters here. It has also to be said that this is a poor piece of journalism, but that's to be expected from these jokers at the LET. So, for all of those ignorant people out there who are being duped by their misunderstanding and propaganda, here's the truth: These "concerns" were raised a few days ago (well done LET, you managed to copy and paste a few paragraphs), but were related to workers from the European mainland, not migrants from outside the EU. The usual suspects jumping up and down about migrants that should learn English before coming to the UK should be aware that ALL migrants from outside the EU are subject to passing English tests BEFORE their visa is issued and BEFORE they arrive in your beloved country. It's your European friends that are the subject here, so if you feel aggrieved, look closer to your borders before pointing the finger.[/p][/quote]you playing the racist card again when no one has mentioned anything other than poor english speaking? Your pathetic! wilddog
  • Score: 4

7:54am Fri 9 May 14

AnthonyUK says...

Stone Island: wrote:
Immigrants shouldn't be allowed to work in this country, unless they can speak the language to a reasonable standard. It's as simple as that.

If I moved to a foreign country - and I may still do, as this one is going to the dogs - the first thing I would do, would be to learn the local language. I think it would be ignorant not to do so.
I agree, it should not be a case of a european african asian middle eastern jibjabbering away in their own language then saying "Me Speky NO English!", I would say to that, "then why the hell are you here then?", and I WOULD terminate their employment forthwith. I would have an ultimatum;if you can't speak English then you don't work within the organisation, simple as. I wouldn't translate my signs and leaflets into 40 odd languages for other people either or get translators in neither.
[quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: Immigrants shouldn't be allowed to work in this country, unless they can speak the language to a reasonable standard. It's as simple as that. If I moved to a foreign country - and I may still do, as this one is going to the dogs - the first thing I would do, would be to learn the local language. I think it would be ignorant not to do so.[/p][/quote]I agree, it should not be a case of a european african asian middle eastern jibjabbering away in their own language then saying "Me Speky NO English!", I would say to that, "then why the hell are you here then?", and I WOULD terminate their employment forthwith. I would have an ultimatum;if you can't speak English then you don't work within the organisation, simple as. I wouldn't translate my signs and leaflets into 40 odd languages for other people either or get translators in neither. AnthonyUK
  • Score: 8

9:25am Fri 9 May 14

Izanears says...

There was an ad for American Express on the tele last night promoting its services. It said that if you fall ill when in a foreign country, it will find a doctor that speaks English. My problem is finding a doctor/medical staff who can speak English when I am taken ill in this country!
There was an ad for American Express on the tele last night promoting its services. It said that if you fall ill when in a foreign country, it will find a doctor that speaks English. My problem is finding a doctor/medical staff who can speak English when I am taken ill in this country! Izanears
  • Score: 8

9:58am Fri 9 May 14

ConcernedOssy says...

Wonder if you can contact Amex in UK if you need an English speaker then !!!
Wonder if you can contact Amex in UK if you need an English speaker then !!! ConcernedOssy
  • Score: 7

10:38am Fri 9 May 14

GracesDad says...

tkaay wrote:
Makes me laugh, reading the comments from the ignorant posters here. It has also to be said that this is a poor piece of journalism, but that's to be expected from these jokers at the LET.

So, for all of those ignorant people out there who are being duped by their misunderstanding and propaganda, here's the truth:

These "concerns" were raised a few days ago (well done LET, you managed to copy and paste a few paragraphs), but were related to workers from the European mainland, not migrants from outside the EU.

The usual suspects jumping up and down about migrants that should learn English before coming to the UK should be aware that ALL migrants from outside the EU are subject to passing English tests BEFORE their visa is issued and BEFORE they arrive in your beloved country.

It's your European friends that are the subject here, so if you feel aggrieved, look closer to your borders before pointing the finger.
If that is true then why do hospitals have signs in 3 or 4 different languages? And why do council services advertise jobs where Urdu or other languages are required???
[quote][p][bold]tkaay[/bold] wrote: Makes me laugh, reading the comments from the ignorant posters here. It has also to be said that this is a poor piece of journalism, but that's to be expected from these jokers at the LET. So, for all of those ignorant people out there who are being duped by their misunderstanding and propaganda, here's the truth: These "concerns" were raised a few days ago (well done LET, you managed to copy and paste a few paragraphs), but were related to workers from the European mainland, not migrants from outside the EU. The usual suspects jumping up and down about migrants that should learn English before coming to the UK should be aware that ALL migrants from outside the EU are subject to passing English tests BEFORE their visa is issued and BEFORE they arrive in your beloved country. It's your European friends that are the subject here, so if you feel aggrieved, look closer to your borders before pointing the finger.[/p][/quote]If that is true then why do hospitals have signs in 3 or 4 different languages? And why do council services advertise jobs where Urdu or other languages are required??? GracesDad
  • Score: 8

11:20am Fri 9 May 14

AnthonyUK says...

GracesDad wrote:
tkaay wrote:
Makes me laugh, reading the comments from the ignorant posters here. It has also to be said that this is a poor piece of journalism, but that's to be expected from these jokers at the LET.

So, for all of those ignorant people out there who are being duped by their misunderstanding and propaganda, here's the truth:

These "concerns" were raised a few days ago (well done LET, you managed to copy and paste a few paragraphs), but were related to workers from the European mainland, not migrants from outside the EU.

The usual suspects jumping up and down about migrants that should learn English before coming to the UK should be aware that ALL migrants from outside the EU are subject to passing English tests BEFORE their visa is issued and BEFORE they arrive in your beloved country.

It's your European friends that are the subject here, so if you feel aggrieved, look closer to your borders before pointing the finger.
If that is true then why do hospitals have signs in 3 or 4 different languages? And why do council services advertise jobs where Urdu or other languages are required???
Very true;)
[quote][p][bold]GracesDad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tkaay[/bold] wrote: Makes me laugh, reading the comments from the ignorant posters here. It has also to be said that this is a poor piece of journalism, but that's to be expected from these jokers at the LET. So, for all of those ignorant people out there who are being duped by their misunderstanding and propaganda, here's the truth: These "concerns" were raised a few days ago (well done LET, you managed to copy and paste a few paragraphs), but were related to workers from the European mainland, not migrants from outside the EU. The usual suspects jumping up and down about migrants that should learn English before coming to the UK should be aware that ALL migrants from outside the EU are subject to passing English tests BEFORE their visa is issued and BEFORE they arrive in your beloved country. It's your European friends that are the subject here, so if you feel aggrieved, look closer to your borders before pointing the finger.[/p][/quote]If that is true then why do hospitals have signs in 3 or 4 different languages? And why do council services advertise jobs where Urdu or other languages are required???[/p][/quote]Very true;) AnthonyUK
  • Score: 6

1:32pm Fri 9 May 14

Fire Fly says...

It is very true that private companies are to blame for employing staff who are simply not able to speak english very well.

If you cannot speak the language, how can you understand the training, how can you understand what is required of somone in the role of carer, how can you fully grasp the issues & vulnerabilities of those you care for ...?

Basically you can't. It just doesn't just stop at the elderly & those with some vulnerability. Service users with complex mental health needs are also being supported by staff with limited english which is, in my view, abuse plain & simple.

When the company agree's to provide care for someone (& the company is always fully advised of the full range of issues a person has) & they supply a carer who cannot deliver the required care - it's fraud & they should be prosecuted. LCC hang your heads in shame that you overlook this matter time & time again.
It is very true that private companies are to blame for employing staff who are simply not able to speak english very well. If you cannot speak the language, how can you understand the training, how can you understand what is required of somone in the role of carer, how can you fully grasp the issues & vulnerabilities of those you care for ...? Basically you can't. It just doesn't just stop at the elderly & those with some vulnerability. Service users with complex mental health needs are also being supported by staff with limited english which is, in my view, abuse plain & simple. When the company agree's to provide care for someone (& the company is always fully advised of the full range of issues a person has) & they supply a carer who cannot deliver the required care - it's fraud & they should be prosecuted. LCC hang your heads in shame that you overlook this matter time & time again. Fire Fly
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10:19am Sat 10 May 14

zabby says...

This is the price we pay with open borders,those of you who voted labour don't moan this is what you signed up for,it's all about the money
This is the price we pay with open borders,those of you who voted labour don't moan this is what you signed up for,it's all about the money zabby
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