East Lancashire firefighters warn of further strike action

Burnley and Pendle Citizen: East Lancashire firefighters warn of further strike action East Lancashire firefighters warn of further strike action

FIREFIGHTERS in East Lancashire will go on strike again if a long-running dispute over pensions is not resolved, a top union official has said.

Steve Harman, the Lancashire secretary of the Fire Brigades Union, said the majority of the its 1,000-strong membership in the county would support further industrial action.

Staff across England and Wales staged walk-outs on Friday, Saturday and Sunday after failing to reach an agreement with the government.

Union members went on strike for five hours on Friday, from 2pm on Saturday to 2am on Sunday, and between 10am and 3pm today.

Lancashire Fire and Rescue said the majority of the county’s fire engines remained operational for the duration of the three day strike.

Firefighters attended more than 40 incidents.

A spokesman said: “Many of these were to false alarms and small fires involving rubbish or in the outdoors."

Authorities were forced to make alternative arrangements for fire cover and Mr Harman said workers would continue to fight for ‘respect’.

He said: “The firefighters in Lancashire are determined to fight unjust government changes which we believe are unsustainable.

“We believe the changes will make the pension scheme unworkable.”

Mr Harman said young firefighters were already having to pay higher pension contributions and faced working into their late 50s before retiring.

He added: “Contributions of 14 per cent are already driving younger members out of the pension scheme, which means they’re not going to have long-term security. We think that’s unjust.

“Whether we take further industrial action is up to the government. There will be further industrial action if the government doesn’t make changes to make sure we have a workable pension scheme.”

A spokesman for the Department for Communities and Local Government said: “The government is clear that further change can be made through constructive engagement, but not under the shadow of industrial action, which only serves to damage firefighters' standing with the public.”

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10:47pm Sun 4 May 14

burner says...

It's 2014, not 1974 .
It's 2014, not 1974 . burner
  • Score: 3

10:57pm Sun 4 May 14

zabby says...

There only trying to safeguard their future,nothing wrong with that
There only trying to safeguard their future,nothing wrong with that zabby
  • Score: 7

11:25pm Sun 4 May 14

2 for 5p ridesagain says...

Good news for the tax payer. At least whilst they are on strike we are not paying them to play snooker.
Good news for the tax payer. At least whilst they are on strike we are not paying them to play snooker. 2 for 5p ridesagain
  • Score: -7

5:52am Mon 5 May 14

Steven Seagull says...

2 for 5p ridesagain wrote:
Good news for the tax payer. At least whilst they are on strike we are not paying them to play snooker.
Yeah you wheel out that one every time there's a fire fighter story you mouth foaming yeti.
[quote][p][bold]2 for 5p ridesagain[/bold] wrote: Good news for the tax payer. At least whilst they are on strike we are not paying them to play snooker.[/p][/quote]Yeah you wheel out that one every time there's a fire fighter story you mouth foaming yeti. Steven Seagull
  • Score: 7

6:14am Mon 5 May 14

Excluded again says...

If there is a fire in your house, firefighters will put their lives on the line to save you and your family. They deserve to be properly rewarded for what they do.

Meanwhile the government in spending taxpayers' money fighting to preserve bankers' bonuses in the courts.

There is plenty of money for what the government thinks is important. Remember that earlier this year David Cameron said 'Money is no object' for tackling flood damage. Its just that this government thinks bankers are important but firefighters are not.
If there is a fire in your house, firefighters will put their lives on the line to save you and your family. They deserve to be properly rewarded for what they do. Meanwhile the government in spending taxpayers' money fighting to preserve bankers' bonuses in the courts. There is plenty of money for what the government thinks is important. Remember that earlier this year David Cameron said 'Money is no object' for tackling flood damage. Its just that this government thinks bankers are important but firefighters are not. Excluded again
  • Score: 12

8:27am Mon 5 May 14

happycyclist says...

burner wrote:
It's 2014, not 1974 .
'burner'...
[quote][p][bold]burner[/bold] wrote: It's 2014, not 1974 .[/p][/quote]'burner'... happycyclist
  • Score: 2

8:56am Mon 5 May 14

Rich Riley says...

Nobody cares if they strike or not.
Nobody cares if they strike or not. Rich Riley
  • Score: -9

10:28am Mon 5 May 14

Izanears says...

Excluded again wrote:
If there is a fire in your house, firefighters will put their lives on the line to save you and your family. They deserve to be properly rewarded for what they do.

Meanwhile the government in spending taxpayers' money fighting to preserve bankers' bonuses in the courts.

There is plenty of money for what the government thinks is important. Remember that earlier this year David Cameron said 'Money is no object' for tackling flood damage. Its just that this government thinks bankers are important but firefighters are not.
They are properly rewarded Excluded. I know several 'firefighters' both working and retired and they live extremely well. It is time that they and the police lived on the same planet as the rest of us when it comes to retirement and pensions.
[quote][p][bold]Excluded again[/bold] wrote: If there is a fire in your house, firefighters will put their lives on the line to save you and your family. They deserve to be properly rewarded for what they do. Meanwhile the government in spending taxpayers' money fighting to preserve bankers' bonuses in the courts. There is plenty of money for what the government thinks is important. Remember that earlier this year David Cameron said 'Money is no object' for tackling flood damage. Its just that this government thinks bankers are important but firefighters are not.[/p][/quote]They are properly rewarded Excluded. I know several 'firefighters' both working and retired and they live extremely well. It is time that they and the police lived on the same planet as the rest of us when it comes to retirement and pensions. Izanears
  • Score: 0

1:26pm Mon 5 May 14

Excluded again says...

Izanears wrote:
Excluded again wrote:
If there is a fire in your house, firefighters will put their lives on the line to save you and your family. They deserve to be properly rewarded for what they do.

Meanwhile the government in spending taxpayers' money fighting to preserve bankers' bonuses in the courts.

There is plenty of money for what the government thinks is important. Remember that earlier this year David Cameron said 'Money is no object' for tackling flood damage. Its just that this government thinks bankers are important but firefighters are not.
They are properly rewarded Excluded. I know several 'firefighters' both working and retired and they live extremely well. It is time that they and the police lived on the same planet as the rest of us when it comes to retirement and pensions.
No. Its time the rest of us can look forward to decent pensions. When did it become acceptable for ordinary people who have worked hard all their lives to have to settle for poor pensions in their old age?

Let's be clear. Those at the top don't accept this. The have pensions which are gold plated and diamond encrusted to boot.
[quote][p][bold]Izanears[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Excluded again[/bold] wrote: If there is a fire in your house, firefighters will put their lives on the line to save you and your family. They deserve to be properly rewarded for what they do. Meanwhile the government in spending taxpayers' money fighting to preserve bankers' bonuses in the courts. There is plenty of money for what the government thinks is important. Remember that earlier this year David Cameron said 'Money is no object' for tackling flood damage. Its just that this government thinks bankers are important but firefighters are not.[/p][/quote]They are properly rewarded Excluded. I know several 'firefighters' both working and retired and they live extremely well. It is time that they and the police lived on the same planet as the rest of us when it comes to retirement and pensions.[/p][/quote]No. Its time the rest of us can look forward to decent pensions. When did it become acceptable for ordinary people who have worked hard all their lives to have to settle for poor pensions in their old age? Let's be clear. Those at the top don't accept this. The have pensions which are gold plated and diamond encrusted to boot. Excluded again
  • Score: 8

3:00pm Mon 5 May 14

Steven Seagull says...

Izanears wrote:
Excluded again wrote:
If there is a fire in your house, firefighters will put their lives on the line to save you and your family. They deserve to be properly rewarded for what they do.

Meanwhile the government in spending taxpayers' money fighting to preserve bankers' bonuses in the courts.

There is plenty of money for what the government thinks is important. Remember that earlier this year David Cameron said 'Money is no object' for tackling flood damage. Its just that this government thinks bankers are important but firefighters are not.
They are properly rewarded Excluded. I know several 'firefighters' both working and retired and they live extremely well. It is time that they and the police lived on the same planet as the rest of us when it comes to retirement and pensions.
I'm sorry but you are wrong. When police officers and fire fighters sign up they agreed to terms and conditions including pensions. The government have literally changed those terms and conditions without any regard for their future /retirement.
It's like you turning round to your mortgage provider and telling them that you are going to start paying a lower rate of interest.

And I'm sure your fire fighter mates will be very pleased to hearing slagging them off in this way.

Your comment suggests you are quite envious of them perhaps?
[quote][p][bold]Izanears[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Excluded again[/bold] wrote: If there is a fire in your house, firefighters will put their lives on the line to save you and your family. They deserve to be properly rewarded for what they do. Meanwhile the government in spending taxpayers' money fighting to preserve bankers' bonuses in the courts. There is plenty of money for what the government thinks is important. Remember that earlier this year David Cameron said 'Money is no object' for tackling flood damage. Its just that this government thinks bankers are important but firefighters are not.[/p][/quote]They are properly rewarded Excluded. I know several 'firefighters' both working and retired and they live extremely well. It is time that they and the police lived on the same planet as the rest of us when it comes to retirement and pensions.[/p][/quote]I'm sorry but you are wrong. When police officers and fire fighters sign up they agreed to terms and conditions including pensions. The government have literally changed those terms and conditions without any regard for their future /retirement. It's like you turning round to your mortgage provider and telling them that you are going to start paying a lower rate of interest. And I'm sure your fire fighter mates will be very pleased to hearing slagging them off in this way. Your comment suggests you are quite envious of them perhaps? Steven Seagull
  • Score: 4

6:53pm Mon 5 May 14

Good call says...

If there is no money left, then why are we still in the European Union, why are we getting ready to spend tens of billions on HS2, why were we on the verge of invading Syria last August and why on earth are we giving away billions in overseas aid if we haven't got a pot to **** in. There is plenty of money to fritter away on the aforementioned schemes, but when it comes to decent pensions for those who put their bodies on the line and make huge personal sacrifices there is nothing, I call bull****.

As for "It is time that they and the police lived on the same planet as the rest of us when it comes to retirement and pensions", are you seriously suggesting that policemen and firefighters should have to work into their mid-late 60's as many if not most of the public now have to.

The reason that the police and firefighters have better pensions is to take account of the dangers that they are exposed to throughout their 20-30 year careers, not to mention the physiological strain and the pressure put on their personal and home lives due to the nature of their work, rewarding them for what they do for the public .
If there is no money left, then why are we still in the European Union, why are we getting ready to spend tens of billions on HS2, why were we on the verge of invading Syria last August and why on earth are we giving away billions in overseas aid if we haven't got a pot to **** in. There is plenty of money to fritter away on the aforementioned schemes, but when it comes to decent pensions for those who put their bodies on the line and make huge personal sacrifices there is nothing, I call bull****. As for "It is time that they and the police lived on the same planet as the rest of us when it comes to retirement and pensions", are you seriously suggesting that policemen and firefighters should have to work into their mid-late 60's as many if not most of the public now have to. The reason that the police and firefighters have better pensions is to take account of the dangers that they are exposed to throughout their 20-30 year careers, not to mention the physiological strain and the pressure put on their personal and home lives due to the nature of their work, rewarding them for what they do for the public . Good call
  • Score: 3

9:57pm Mon 5 May 14

2 for 5p ridesagain says...

Whats the difference between the long term unemployed and a fireman. ?
The fireman costs us tax payers much more money
Whats the difference between the long term unemployed and a fireman. ? The fireman costs us tax payers much more money 2 for 5p ridesagain
  • Score: -5

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