Move for more South Asian women politicians in East Lancashire

Burnley and Pendle Citizen: Shahabuddin Solkar and his wife Shamin were shocked to find no Asian women on Blackburn with Darwen Council Shahabuddin Solkar and his wife Shamin were shocked to find no Asian women on Blackburn with Darwen Council

RETIRING councillor Shahabuddin Solkar has launched a campaign for South Asian women to become councillors in East Lancashire

Shahabuddin and his wife Shamim said they were shocked there is not a single Asian woman on Blackburn with Darwen council, the county or any of the five boroughs in the area – Burnley, Pendle, Rossendale, Hyndburn, or Ribble Valley.

Now they are calling for women of South Asian heritage to come forward to ensure the representation in council chambers matches the make-up of the voters.

The only woman from an ethnic minority on Blackburn with Darwen Council is Jordanian-born Liberal Democrat Karimeh Foster.

The Solkars’ campaign has been backed by Mrs Foster’s husband and borough LibDem leader David, Pendle Labour leader Mohammed Iqbal, and Lancashire county Tory boss Geoff Driver.

Blackburn has 17 Asian male councillors (three on the ruling executive board), Pendle nine, Burnley four, Hyndburn four and Lancashire county five.

Coun Solkar, who was deselected from Shear Brow ward for next month’s local elections, made his appeal at his final borough Council Forum.

He said: “We need South Asian female councillors.

“There is a democratic deficit. We need South Asian women on the council, of whatever party, to represent them properly. I hope to return to Blackburn with Darwen borough as a councillor but would stand aside as a candidate to allow a South Asian woman to take my place.

“I appeal for women of a South Asian background to come forward to stand for whatever party.”

Mrs Solkar said: “I hope to become a councillor.

“We need South Asian women on local councils so that females from that cultural background know there is someone to approach who understands them.”

Blackburn Labour Party secretary Phil Riley said: “We would encourage women from this background to come forward. The lack of women of South Asian background on East Lancashire councils is a democratic deficit.”

Burnley-born and Rossendale-raised Coun Driver said: “We need South Asian women councillors so our political bodies are representative of the areas they cover.”

Coun Iqbal said; “We certainly need South Asian women on our councils.

“Labour in Pendle has plans to put this right at next year’s local elections.”

Coun Foster said: “I support this move.

“It is important to our democracy.”

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1:15pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Bluelizzy says...

How utterly racist.
How utterly racist. Bluelizzy
  • Score: 22

1:18pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Steven Seagull says...

Surely the best person for the job should get it, regardless of what colour race or gender they are?

Or am I missing something here?
Surely the best person for the job should get it, regardless of what colour race or gender they are? Or am I missing something here? Steven Seagull
  • Score: 23

1:18pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

What about are hard working Chinese people or the Italians or the Polish, or is it a closed shop!!!
What about are hard working Chinese people or the Italians or the Polish, or is it a closed shop!!! Lancs - pensioner
  • Score: 21

1:25pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Openminded? says...

Steven Seagull wrote:
Surely the best person for the job should get it, regardless of what colour race or gender they are?

Or am I missing something here?
I agree, this is rather stupid (I'm Asian)
[quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: Surely the best person for the job should get it, regardless of what colour race or gender they are? Or am I missing something here?[/p][/quote]I agree, this is rather stupid (I'm Asian) Openminded?
  • Score: 19

1:33pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Excluded again says...

Steven Seagull wrote:
Surely the best person for the job should get it, regardless of what colour race or gender they are?

Or am I missing something here?
Yes. There are 39 Asian heritage Councillors in East Lancashire and all of them are men. I think it vanishingly unlikely that the 39 best people to be Councillors from the Asian heritage community are all men.

Which suggests that some of the best people for the job are not getting the job on the basis that they lack a dangly thing between their legs.
[quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: Surely the best person for the job should get it, regardless of what colour race or gender they are? Or am I missing something here?[/p][/quote]Yes. There are 39 Asian heritage Councillors in East Lancashire and all of them are men. I think it vanishingly unlikely that the 39 best people to be Councillors from the Asian heritage community are all men. Which suggests that some of the best people for the job are not getting the job on the basis that they lack a dangly thing between their legs. Excluded again
  • Score: 18

2:17pm Wed 30 Apr 14

slants says...

Steven Seagull wrote:
Surely the best person for the job should get it, regardless of what colour race or gender they are?

Or am I missing something here?
you always do moron
[quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: Surely the best person for the job should get it, regardless of what colour race or gender they are? Or am I missing something here?[/p][/quote]you always do moron slants
  • Score: -19

2:22pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Champagne plus charlie says...

Excluded again wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
Surely the best person for the job should get it, regardless of what colour race or gender they are?

Or am I missing something here?
Yes. There are 39 Asian heritage Councillors in East Lancashire and all of them are men. I think it vanishingly unlikely that the 39 best people to be Councillors from the Asian heritage community are all men.

Which suggests that some of the best people for the job are not getting the job on the basis that they lack a dangly thing between their legs.
Or that they are actually NOT ALLOWED to stand by their overbearing and oppressive husbands?

Just a thought.
[quote][p][bold]Excluded again[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: Surely the best person for the job should get it, regardless of what colour race or gender they are? Or am I missing something here?[/p][/quote]Yes. There are 39 Asian heritage Councillors in East Lancashire and all of them are men. I think it vanishingly unlikely that the 39 best people to be Councillors from the Asian heritage community are all men. Which suggests that some of the best people for the job are not getting the job on the basis that they lack a dangly thing between their legs.[/p][/quote]Or that they are actually NOT ALLOWED to stand by their overbearing and oppressive husbands? Just a thought. Champagne plus charlie
  • Score: 23

2:49pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Steven Seagull says...

slants wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
Surely the best person for the job should get it, regardless of what colour race or gender they are?

Or am I missing something here?
you always do moron
Oooooh steady on precious, have I upset you?
[quote][p][bold]slants[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: Surely the best person for the job should get it, regardless of what colour race or gender they are? Or am I missing something here?[/p][/quote]you always do moron[/p][/quote]Oooooh steady on precious, have I upset you? Steven Seagull
  • Score: 12

2:56pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Reality50 says...

I would like to see more councillors that care about the white British working class as frankly they are thin on the ground.
I would like to see more councillors that care about the white British working class as frankly they are thin on the ground. Reality50
  • Score: 15

3:38pm Wed 30 Apr 14

burner says...

Steven Seagull wrote:
Surely the best person for the job should get it, regardless of what colour race or gender they are?

Or am I missing something here?
Not absolutely true . . I refer you to the Blackburn Labour MP candidates' women-only policy . . . . . . . . .. . TOTALLY WRONG ( and illegal??????? )
[quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: Surely the best person for the job should get it, regardless of what colour race or gender they are? Or am I missing something here?[/p][/quote]Not absolutely true . . I refer you to the Blackburn Labour MP candidates' women-only policy . . . . . . . . .. . TOTALLY WRONG ( and illegal??????? ) burner
  • Score: 16

4:02pm Wed 30 Apr 14

ConcernedOssy says...

burner wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
Surely the best person for the job should get it, regardless of what colour race or gender they are?

Or am I missing something here?
Not absolutely true . . I refer you to the Blackburn Labour MP candidates' women-only policy . . . . . . . . .. . TOTALLY WRONG ( and illegal??????? )
See also article "PM tilt at Clegg on woman ministers"
[quote][p][bold]burner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: Surely the best person for the job should get it, regardless of what colour race or gender they are? Or am I missing something here?[/p][/quote]Not absolutely true . . I refer you to the Blackburn Labour MP candidates' women-only policy . . . . . . . . .. . TOTALLY WRONG ( and illegal??????? )[/p][/quote]See also article "PM tilt at Clegg on woman ministers" ConcernedOssy
  • Score: 8

4:06pm Wed 30 Apr 14

George Khan says...

Salaam putters, I think the woman's place is in the blody kitchen
If you have 'two' many women at a council meeting, real issues are ditched
All you hear is yap yap about the latest gossip and holidaying
If a woman has the right agenda, then she should be rightly pitched
If we can improve the welfare of this town and end council costs rising
Then I'm all up for a Mrs Khan, Malik or JAWAAD to be picked
Perhaps the area just needs one woman to be councilling
If you have two or more, the real concerns and agendas will be missed
Salaam putters, I think the woman's place is in the blody kitchen If you have 'two' many women at a council meeting, real issues are ditched All you hear is yap yap about the latest gossip and holidaying If a woman has the right agenda, then she should be rightly pitched If we can improve the welfare of this town and end council costs rising Then I'm all up for a Mrs Khan, Malik or JAWAAD to be picked Perhaps the area just needs one woman to be councilling If you have two or more, the real concerns and agendas will be missed George Khan
  • Score: -12

5:43pm Wed 30 Apr 14

iceman123 says...

no we need moor English not Asian women are jokes
no we need moor English not Asian women are jokes iceman123
  • Score: -4

6:12pm Wed 30 Apr 14

woolywords says...

Anyone know if Cllr Phil Riley is of English heritage, as he doesn't seem to have a good grasp of the tongue.
He said, 'The lack of women of South Asian background on East Lancashire councils is a democratic deficit', when he should have stated that it's a demographic deficit.
(Mind you, with the quality of reportage in this paper, he may well have said that but that it was lost in the spell-checker or auto-complete.)
Anyone know if Cllr Phil Riley is of English heritage, as he doesn't seem to have a good grasp of the tongue. He said, 'The lack of women of South Asian background on East Lancashire councils is a democratic deficit', when he should have stated that it's a demographic deficit. (Mind you, with the quality of reportage in this paper, he may well have said that but that it was lost in the spell-checker or auto-complete.) woolywords
  • Score: 3

6:21pm Wed 30 Apr 14

woolywords says...

Is it just me being cynical, or is there a coincidence that Cllr Solkhat has been deselected by his party, his wish to see more ladies in the Council and his wife now expressing a wish to stand for election?
It's like turkeys, writing a will, gaining insurance that expires on Boxing Day and then voting for Christmas, kind of coincidence, I think.
Is it just me being cynical, or is there a coincidence that Cllr Solkhat has been deselected by his party, his wish to see more ladies in the Council and his wife now expressing a wish to stand for election? It's like turkeys, writing a will, gaining insurance that expires on Boxing Day and then voting for Christmas, kind of coincidence, I think. woolywords
  • Score: 6

6:23pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Excluded again says...

woolywords wrote:
Anyone know if Cllr Phil Riley is of English heritage, as he doesn't seem to have a good grasp of the tongue.
He said, 'The lack of women of South Asian background on East Lancashire councils is a democratic deficit', when he should have stated that it's a demographic deficit.
(Mind you, with the quality of reportage in this paper, he may well have said that but that it was lost in the spell-checker or auto-complete.)
No. 'Democratic deficit' is a long standing term for a situation in which certain groups are underrepresented. Maybe Cllr Riley is guilty of using English words that not all English speakers are familiar with.
[quote][p][bold]woolywords[/bold] wrote: Anyone know if Cllr Phil Riley is of English heritage, as he doesn't seem to have a good grasp of the tongue. He said, 'The lack of women of South Asian background on East Lancashire councils is a democratic deficit', when he should have stated that it's a demographic deficit. (Mind you, with the quality of reportage in this paper, he may well have said that but that it was lost in the spell-checker or auto-complete.)[/p][/quote]No. 'Democratic deficit' is a long standing term for a situation in which certain groups are underrepresented. Maybe Cllr Riley is guilty of using English words that not all English speakers are familiar with. Excluded again
  • Score: 5

10:37pm Wed 30 Apr 14

woolywords says...

Excluded again wrote:
woolywords wrote:
Anyone know if Cllr Phil Riley is of English heritage, as he doesn't seem to have a good grasp of the tongue.
He said, 'The lack of women of South Asian background on East Lancashire councils is a democratic deficit', when he should have stated that it's a demographic deficit.
(Mind you, with the quality of reportage in this paper, he may well have said that but that it was lost in the spell-checker or auto-complete.)
No. 'Democratic deficit' is a long standing term for a situation in which certain groups are underrepresented. Maybe Cllr Riley is guilty of using English words that not all English speakers are familiar with.
My fault in the way that I wrote my piece, in not clarifying the difference between the two nouns, where one refers to democratic principles and I understood, from what was written, in speech marks, referred to a quotient (that there was a numbers issue), therefore I used the statistical noun.
A democratic deficit occurs when ostensibly democratic organizations or institutions fall short of fulfilling the principles of democracy in their practices or operation where representative and linked parliamentary integrity becomes widely discussed.
However, in this instance, they were referring to the lack of a particular group, whom are under represented as a sub-set in the whole group, since this is a statistical reference, the term demographic, applies.
I hope this clarifies for you, what my intent was, in that, someone whom relies upon communication, to get across a message, could have chosen their words, with more care.
Coincidently, apathetic people are grossly under represented as a demographic but that is their choice, until the law makes it, compulsory to vote.
[quote][p][bold]Excluded again[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woolywords[/bold] wrote: Anyone know if Cllr Phil Riley is of English heritage, as he doesn't seem to have a good grasp of the tongue. He said, 'The lack of women of South Asian background on East Lancashire councils is a democratic deficit', when he should have stated that it's a demographic deficit. (Mind you, with the quality of reportage in this paper, he may well have said that but that it was lost in the spell-checker or auto-complete.)[/p][/quote]No. 'Democratic deficit' is a long standing term for a situation in which certain groups are underrepresented. Maybe Cllr Riley is guilty of using English words that not all English speakers are familiar with.[/p][/quote]My fault in the way that I wrote my piece, in not clarifying the difference between the two nouns, where one refers to democratic principles and I understood, from what was written, in speech marks, referred to a quotient (that there was a numbers issue), therefore I used the statistical noun. A democratic deficit occurs when ostensibly democratic organizations or institutions fall short of fulfilling the principles of democracy in their practices or operation where representative and linked parliamentary integrity becomes widely discussed. However, in this instance, they were referring to the lack of a particular group, whom are under represented as a sub-set in the whole group, since this is a statistical reference, the term demographic, applies. I hope this clarifies for you, what my intent was, in that, someone whom relies upon communication, to get across a message, could have chosen their words, with more care. Coincidently, apathetic people are grossly under represented as a demographic but that is their choice, until the law makes it, compulsory to vote. woolywords
  • Score: -4

11:50pm Wed 30 Apr 14

mmickk says...

And what are all the Muslim Councillors doing going to mosques that are calling to prayer? No Mosque is allowed to do this they do not have planning permission. Yet these Councillors are blatantly ignoring this and the complaints to the council about noise pollution. Taxpayers pay your wages yet they are not fit for purpose. Why should we have to shut our windows when some Muslim rants over a loud speaker. Its noise pollution and illegal same with Jans conference centre with fire works after 11pm yet another Councillor breaking the law. This council is corrupt from top to bottom how can they expect us to be law abiding when they are not.
And what are all the Muslim Councillors doing going to mosques that are calling to prayer? No Mosque is allowed to do this they do not have planning permission. Yet these Councillors are blatantly ignoring this and the complaints to the council about noise pollution. Taxpayers pay your wages yet they are not fit for purpose. Why should we have to shut our windows when some Muslim rants over a loud speaker. Its noise pollution and illegal same with Jans conference centre with fire works after 11pm yet another Councillor breaking the law. This council is corrupt from top to bottom how can they expect us to be law abiding when they are not. mmickk
  • Score: -6

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