Todmorden Curve completion date still realistic, say Network Rail bosses

Burnley and Pendle Citizen: The Todmorden Curve The Todmorden Curve

SIGNALLING systems are now being installed at the Todmorden Curve as the project to bring the railway track back into use nears completion.

The £8.8million scheme to breathe new life into that section of the railway line remains on track to be completed by May 12, according to bosses at Network Rail.

The project would slash rail times between Burnley and Manchester, with the service also calling at Blackburn, Accrington, Rosegrove and Todmorden.

As these pictures reveal, work on the curve is continuing to progress rapidly.

A spokesman for Network Rail said: “The majority of the heavy engineering work associated with the Todmorden Curve has been carried out and we continue with the installation of the signalling systems.

“Work is progressing well and we are due to complete the project, as previously outlined, on May 12.”

The Todmorden Curve peels off the main line to the north of Stansfield Road and extends for 500 yards to near Burnley Road in Todmorden.

Burnley and Pendle Citizen:

Campaigners have been calling for that section of the line to be reopened for a number of years, with service times between Burnley and Manchester Victoria reduced to only around 45 minutes as a result of trains being able to use the Caldervale Line into the city.

But despite work on the reinstating of the Todmorden Curve nearing completion, there remains a question mark over when the line will be fully operational.

A lack of rolling stock, as revealed by the Lancashire Telegraph last year, means the service is unlikely to be running until later this year at the earliest.

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3:11pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

"completed by May 12,", but no rolling stock available until December! Gee, thanks Maggie, and the rest of you Tort a***-wipes.
"completed by May 12,", but no rolling stock available until December! Gee, thanks Maggie, and the rest of you Tort a***-wipes. Darren1951
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3:12pm Mon 31 Mar 14

bluewindow says...

Why would you catch a train from Blackburn go in the wrong direction to burnley? When you can catch a direct serice from Blackburn to Manchester?
Why would you catch a train from Blackburn go in the wrong direction to burnley? When you can catch a direct serice from Blackburn to Manchester? bluewindow
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3:18pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

Darren1951 wrote:
"completed by May 12,", but no rolling stock available until December! Gee, thanks Maggie, and the rest of you Tort a***-wipes.
Trying to do things too quickly! "Tory", nut "Tort"!
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: "completed by May 12,", but no rolling stock available until December! Gee, thanks Maggie, and the rest of you Tort a***-wipes.[/p][/quote]Trying to do things too quickly! "Tory", nut "Tort"! Darren1951
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3:27pm Mon 31 Mar 14

s.dallas says...

I love that the curve on the map has blatantly just been drawn on using paint :') Brilliant
I love that the curve on the map has blatantly just been drawn on using paint :') Brilliant s.dallas
  • Score: 8

3:39pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

bluewindow wrote:
Why would you catch a train from Blackburn go in the wrong direction to burnley? When you can catch a direct serice from Blackburn to Manchester?
Maybe because such a service would also serve places like Todmorden and Rochdale? These places may be of little interest to you, always assuming that you actually know where they are. There probably is some reason for starting the service at Blackburn, but I think that the number of passengers wanting to make the full journey will be relatively few.
[quote][p][bold]bluewindow[/bold] wrote: Why would you catch a train from Blackburn go in the wrong direction to burnley? When you can catch a direct serice from Blackburn to Manchester?[/p][/quote]Maybe because such a service would also serve places like Todmorden and Rochdale? These places may be of little interest to you, always assuming that you actually know where they are. There probably is some reason for starting the service at Blackburn, but I think that the number of passengers wanting to make the full journey will be relatively few. Darren1951
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4:33pm Mon 31 Mar 14

shytalk says...

Should never have been closed in the first place..
Should never have been closed in the first place.. shytalk
  • Score: 6

6:37pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Steven Seagull says...

bluewindow wrote:
Why would you catch a train from Blackburn go in the wrong direction to burnley? When you can catch a direct serice from Blackburn to Manchester?
Maybe somebody getting on at Blackburn might want to go to Todmorden?
[quote][p][bold]bluewindow[/bold] wrote: Why would you catch a train from Blackburn go in the wrong direction to burnley? When you can catch a direct serice from Blackburn to Manchester?[/p][/quote]Maybe somebody getting on at Blackburn might want to go to Todmorden? Steven Seagull
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8:14pm Mon 31 Mar 14

GrindletonBob says...

£8.8 million for basically reopening a short (500 yards) section of track that had only got into such a poor state because Railtrack (as was) then Network Rail couldn't maintain their assets properly. This isn't a new railway, it's some new track and signals because the old was left to rot.

Look at the length of the "new" curve on the map - £8.8 million it's cost the taxpayer given Network Rail will shortly be a "central government body in the public sector".

And now despite this expensive single track, which is shorter than the residential streets that run alongside, there's apparently no spare trains to run on it as Northern "a Serco/Abellio Joint Venture" Rail aren't renowned for having any surplus rolling stock, as commuters into Bolton and Manchester will testify. Bit like buying your children a Hornby train set for Christmas but it not coming with any trains, only the track and a couple of signals.

No wonder we pay some of the highest ticket prices in Europe.
£8.8 million for basically reopening a short (500 yards) section of track that had only got into such a poor state because Railtrack (as was) then Network Rail couldn't maintain their assets properly. This isn't a new railway, it's some new track and signals because the old was left to rot. Look at the length of the "new" curve on the map - £8.8 million it's cost the taxpayer given Network Rail will shortly be a "central government body in the public sector". And now despite this expensive single track, which is shorter than the residential streets that run alongside, there's apparently no spare trains to run on it as Northern "a Serco/Abellio Joint Venture" Rail aren't renowned for having any surplus rolling stock, as commuters into Bolton and Manchester will testify. Bit like buying your children a Hornby train set for Christmas but it not coming with any trains, only the track and a couple of signals. No wonder we pay some of the highest ticket prices in Europe. GrindletonBob
  • Score: 6

9:56pm Mon 31 Mar 14

RoverLion says...

It isn't cutting edge railway technology to lay track on an existing trackbed, although it seems to be to acquire diesel rolling stock.

Sadly. Lancashire, diluted with the unitary authorities, has very little clout when it comes to pushing new infrastructure schemes unlike areas covered by Merseytravel or GMPTA.

There are many of these "infill schemes" in Lancashire, such as the Burscough Curves which cause tortuous journey times from Lancashire to the Merseyside City Region rail network, and sadly the Todmorden Curve isn't a shining example of such a scheme to progress.

We need some region wide political will, not just for the North West, but the whole of the North. A northern "crossrail" perhaps linking the North from Merseyside to Newcastle, but that would require "A Northern Boris" to push it.
It isn't cutting edge railway technology to lay track on an existing trackbed, although it seems to be to acquire diesel rolling stock. Sadly. Lancashire, diluted with the unitary authorities, has very little clout when it comes to pushing new infrastructure schemes unlike areas covered by Merseytravel or GMPTA. There are many of these "infill schemes" in Lancashire, such as the Burscough Curves which cause tortuous journey times from Lancashire to the Merseyside City Region rail network, and sadly the Todmorden Curve isn't a shining example of such a scheme to progress. We need some region wide political will, not just for the North West, but the whole of the North. A northern "crossrail" perhaps linking the North from Merseyside to Newcastle, but that would require "A Northern Boris" to push it. RoverLion
  • Score: 4

1:22am Tue 1 Apr 14

RicPou says...

The idea is to serve the stations between Blackburn and Manchester, the railway lines are not best placed for this. BUT why £8.8m for 500 yds of reinstated track and the points at each end to connect it shows Network Rail is ripping us off, or the contractors are ripping Network Rail off. Anyone locally want to do a Freedom of Information request?
The idea is to serve the stations between Blackburn and Manchester, the railway lines are not best placed for this. BUT why £8.8m for 500 yds of reinstated track and the points at each end to connect it shows Network Rail is ripping us off, or the contractors are ripping Network Rail off. Anyone locally want to do a Freedom of Information request? RicPou
  • Score: 1

7:21am Tue 1 Apr 14

Darren1951 says...

RoverLion wrote:
It isn't cutting edge railway technology to lay track on an existing trackbed, although it seems to be to acquire diesel rolling stock.

Sadly. Lancashire, diluted with the unitary authorities, has very little clout when it comes to pushing new infrastructure schemes unlike areas covered by Merseytravel or GMPTA.

There are many of these "infill schemes" in Lancashire, such as the Burscough Curves which cause tortuous journey times from Lancashire to the Merseyside City Region rail network, and sadly the Todmorden Curve isn't a shining example of such a scheme to progress.

We need some region wide political will, not just for the North West, but the whole of the North. A northern "crossrail" perhaps linking the North from Merseyside to Newcastle, but that would require "A Northern Boris" to push it.
As long as it's not another trough-swilling Tory or Labour a***-wipe!
[quote][p][bold]RoverLion[/bold] wrote: It isn't cutting edge railway technology to lay track on an existing trackbed, although it seems to be to acquire diesel rolling stock. Sadly. Lancashire, diluted with the unitary authorities, has very little clout when it comes to pushing new infrastructure schemes unlike areas covered by Merseytravel or GMPTA. There are many of these "infill schemes" in Lancashire, such as the Burscough Curves which cause tortuous journey times from Lancashire to the Merseyside City Region rail network, and sadly the Todmorden Curve isn't a shining example of such a scheme to progress. We need some region wide political will, not just for the North West, but the whole of the North. A northern "crossrail" perhaps linking the North from Merseyside to Newcastle, but that would require "A Northern Boris" to push it.[/p][/quote]As long as it's not another trough-swilling Tory or Labour a***-wipe! Darren1951
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9:12am Wed 2 Apr 14

bluewindow says...

Steven Seagull wrote:
bluewindow wrote:
Why would you catch a train from Blackburn go in the wrong direction to burnley? When you can catch a direct serice from Blackburn to Manchester?
Maybe somebody getting on at Blackburn might want to go to Todmorden?
Sorry but why would somebody want to go to todmorden?
[quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluewindow[/bold] wrote: Why would you catch a train from Blackburn go in the wrong direction to burnley? When you can catch a direct serice from Blackburn to Manchester?[/p][/quote]Maybe somebody getting on at Blackburn might want to go to Todmorden?[/p][/quote]Sorry but why would somebody want to go to todmorden? bluewindow
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10:02am Wed 2 Apr 14

Darren1951 says...

bluewindow wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
bluewindow wrote:
Why would you catch a train from Blackburn go in the wrong direction to burnley? When you can catch a direct serice from Blackburn to Manchester?
Maybe somebody getting on at Blackburn might want to go to Todmorden?
Sorry but why would somebody want to go to todmorden?
You've obviously spent a lot of time there, so please let us poor, ill-informed unfortunates all have the benefit of your experiences, and enlighten us as to why it isn't the sort of place that people might enjoy visiting.
[quote][p][bold]bluewindow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluewindow[/bold] wrote: Why would you catch a train from Blackburn go in the wrong direction to burnley? When you can catch a direct serice from Blackburn to Manchester?[/p][/quote]Maybe somebody getting on at Blackburn might want to go to Todmorden?[/p][/quote]Sorry but why would somebody want to go to todmorden?[/p][/quote]You've obviously spent a lot of time there, so please let us poor, ill-informed unfortunates all have the benefit of your experiences, and enlighten us as to why it isn't the sort of place that people might enjoy visiting. Darren1951
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11:08am Wed 2 Apr 14

Random Username says...

Northern Rail have announced that there is one train available - one train. So if a journey between Victoria and Blackburn is going to take, an hour at least, that means that Burnley's so called new prosperity is going to be reliant on a two hourly service to Manchester. May as well change at Hebden Bridge - oh, hang on...
Northern Rail have announced that there is one train available - one train. So if a journey between Victoria and Blackburn is going to take, an hour at least, that means that Burnley's so called new prosperity is going to be reliant on a two hourly service to Manchester. May as well change at Hebden Bridge - oh, hang on... Random Username
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6:29pm Wed 2 Apr 14

bluewindow says...

Darren1951 wrote:
bluewindow wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
bluewindow wrote:
Why would you catch a train from Blackburn go in the wrong direction to burnley? When you can catch a direct serice from Blackburn to Manchester?
Maybe somebody getting on at Blackburn might want to go to Todmorden?
Sorry but why would somebody want to go to todmorden?
You've obviously spent a lot of time there, so please let us poor, ill-informed unfortunates all have the benefit of your experiences, and enlighten us as to why it isn't the sort of place that people might enjoy visiting.
It's damp miserable has a run down market and so called garden center and that's it. So yeah it's a dump
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluewindow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluewindow[/bold] wrote: Why would you catch a train from Blackburn go in the wrong direction to burnley? When you can catch a direct serice from Blackburn to Manchester?[/p][/quote]Maybe somebody getting on at Blackburn might want to go to Todmorden?[/p][/quote]Sorry but why would somebody want to go to todmorden?[/p][/quote]You've obviously spent a lot of time there, so please let us poor, ill-informed unfortunates all have the benefit of your experiences, and enlighten us as to why it isn't the sort of place that people might enjoy visiting.[/p][/quote]It's damp miserable has a run down market and so called garden center and that's it. So yeah it's a dump bluewindow
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