East Lancs residents pay more council tax than Londoners

East Lancs residents pay more council tax than Londoners

East Lancs residents pay more council tax than Londoners

First published in News Burnley and Pendle Citizen: Photograph of the Author by , Health Reporter

STRUGGLING families in East Lancashire are paying almost £1,000 more council tax than those in affluent areas of London.

While residents in Westminster will pay just £676 for an average ‘Band D’ home in 2014/15, those in Burnley, Hyndburn, Pendle and Rossendale will have to fork out more than £1,500.

Next year’s council tax bill for Band D homes in Burnley is £1,595 while average homes in Pendle and Ribble Valley will pay £1,568 and £1,468 plus any parish council fees. Residents in Hyndburn and Rossendale will be charged £1,558 and £1,581 respectively.

Most of the cash from these five boroughs goes to the county council. Band D residents in Blackburn with Darwen, which has a unitary authority, will pay £1,486. Most of the cheapest council tax bills in England are found in Conservative-led west London boroughs.

Jenny Mein, Labour leader of Lancashire County Council, said: “It’s clearly unfair that our residents are paying so much more but it’s down to the unfair distribution of government funding.

“In Westminster they can raise a fortune through car parking and business rates so they barely need to charge any council tax.

“We also have many more people who require council services, which costs more.

“Things are working against us in so many ways and we need fairer funding.

“Our grant has been reduced by 13-and-a-half per cent over four years.”

A spokesman for the Department of Communities and Local Government insisted that ‘funding is fair to all parts of the country’.

and added: “As more affluent areas have more homes in higher council tax bands, they pay higher average council tax.”

Andy Kay, Blackburn with Darwen Council’s cabinet member for resources, said the budgets for London borough’s were ‘completely different’ to Blackburn with Darwen’s.

He added: “Comparisons with other unitary authorities show that Blackburn with Darwen’s average council tax payable per dwelling is low, and we have one of the lowest council tax rates in Lancashire.”

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2:42pm Wed 19 Mar 14

midas says...

car parking charges and business rates aren't "government funding". Perhaps you can publish figures showing the percentage of residents in each Borough that actually pay council tax and how much arrears each council have.

could it possibly be that more people pay council tax in London therefore there is more money in the council coffers?
car parking charges and business rates aren't "government funding". Perhaps you can publish figures showing the percentage of residents in each Borough that actually pay council tax and how much arrears each council have. could it possibly be that more people pay council tax in London therefore there is more money in the council coffers? midas
  • Score: 5

3:08pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Loving lances says...

Councillor Mein talks rubbish. The streets in Westminster are clean compared to east Lancs. Westminster uses private collectors and cleaners. And it doesn't have large numbers of residents who for many years have paid no council tax, like Rossendale for example.
Councillor Mein talks rubbish. The streets in Westminster are clean compared to east Lancs. Westminster uses private collectors and cleaners. And it doesn't have large numbers of residents who for many years have paid no council tax, like Rossendale for example. Loving lances
  • Score: 8

3:10pm Wed 19 Mar 14

midas says...

and given that Band D valuation is £68 -88K - how many houses does that cover in Westminster?
and given that Band D valuation is £68 -88K - how many houses does that cover in Westminster? midas
  • Score: 5

3:19pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Norm de Plume says...

In any event, an argument for a local income tax.
In any event, an argument for a local income tax. Norm de Plume
  • Score: -2

5:23pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Excluded again says...

Well, of course they do. The South East Nationalist Party (aka Tory) government has slashed support to Councils in the north whilst maintaining or increasing support for Councils in the south.

The only surprising thing about this story is that anyone is surprised by it.

What to report next? Sun rises in the East?
Well, of course they do. The South East Nationalist Party (aka Tory) government has slashed support to Councils in the north whilst maintaining or increasing support for Councils in the south. The only surprising thing about this story is that anyone is surprised by it. What to report next? Sun rises in the East? Excluded again
  • Score: -1

6:45pm Wed 19 Mar 14

shytalk says...

East Lancs residents pay more council tax than Londoners...Yeah but it's nice to have an inside toilet at this time of the year don't you think?
East Lancs residents pay more council tax than Londoners...Yeah but it's nice to have an inside toilet at this time of the year don't you think? shytalk
  • Score: 3

8:23pm Wed 19 Mar 14

phil kernot says...

That don't want poor people down south , if you worked out how much the councils rake in in council tax and rates you would be gob smacked , we pay council tax income tax road tax blah blah blah its like were in a communist country , all our income goes back to the goverment in the end what does that say ,, About time we all stuck together on theses issues and have a revolution lol,,:)
That don't want poor people down south , if you worked out how much the councils rake in in council tax and rates you would be gob smacked , we pay council tax income tax road tax blah blah blah its like were in a communist country , all our income goes back to the goverment in the end what does that say ,, About time we all stuck together on theses issues and have a revolution lol,,:) phil kernot
  • Score: 4

1:03am Thu 20 Mar 14

english rose 1 says...

midas wrote:
car parking charges and business rates aren't "government funding". Perhaps you can publish figures showing the percentage of residents in each Borough that actually pay council tax and how much arrears each council have.

could it possibly be that more people pay council tax in London therefore there is more money in the council coffers?
Not really - generally Council Tax collection is higher in Lancashire Boroughs than London Boroughs.
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[quote][p][bold]midas[/bold] wrote: car parking charges and business rates aren't "government funding". Perhaps you can publish figures showing the percentage of residents in each Borough that actually pay council tax and how much arrears each council have. could it possibly be that more people pay council tax in London therefore there is more money in the council coffers?[/p][/quote]Not really - generally Council Tax collection is higher in Lancashire Boroughs than London Boroughs. * english rose 1
  • Score: 0

1:17am Thu 20 Mar 14

english rose 1 says...

Loving lances wrote:
Councillor Mein talks rubbish. The streets in Westminster are clean compared to east Lancs. Westminster uses private collectors and cleaners. And it doesn't have large numbers of residents who for many years have paid no council tax, like Rossendale for example.
I had a very god friend living in Westminster and visited many times. I can assure you that the streets are comparable to East Lancs for cleanliness.
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Private collectors are also used in many areas of East Lancs (as well as Council collectors). The service is not much different at all.
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Westminster Council can indeed raise HUGE sums of money from things like car parking, selling off land, former Council homes etc. Councils in East Lancs (and indeed most of the UK) just cannot compete with this. Westminster Council can therefore cushion itself from the cuts far more easily.
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The Govt has cut Westminster Council's funding by £136 per head (2010-13), whilst Hackney was cut by £266, Liverpool £252, Knowsley £252, Newham £245, Manchester £210, Blackburn with Darwen £205, Tower Hamlets £204, South Tyneside £202, Hartlepool £200, Islington £198, St Helens £183 .. etc etc .
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The article is slightly incorrect in that the harshest funding cuts have been to those Councils in the most deprived areas, - not a simple split between north and south. The poor areas of London, for example, have suffered greater cutbacks than the richer areas of London. Which, to be frank, is what you would expect a Tory led Govt to do !
[quote][p][bold]Loving lances[/bold] wrote: Councillor Mein talks rubbish. The streets in Westminster are clean compared to east Lancs. Westminster uses private collectors and cleaners. And it doesn't have large numbers of residents who for many years have paid no council tax, like Rossendale for example.[/p][/quote]I had a very god friend living in Westminster and visited many times. I can assure you that the streets are comparable to East Lancs for cleanliness. * Private collectors are also used in many areas of East Lancs (as well as Council collectors). The service is not much different at all. * Westminster Council can indeed raise HUGE sums of money from things like car parking, selling off land, former Council homes etc. Councils in East Lancs (and indeed most of the UK) just cannot compete with this. Westminster Council can therefore cushion itself from the cuts far more easily. * The Govt has cut Westminster Council's funding by £136 per head (2010-13), whilst Hackney was cut by £266, Liverpool £252, Knowsley £252, Newham £245, Manchester £210, Blackburn with Darwen £205, Tower Hamlets £204, South Tyneside £202, Hartlepool £200, Islington £198, St Helens £183 .. etc etc . * The article is slightly incorrect in that the harshest funding cuts have been to those Councils in the most deprived areas, - not a simple split between north and south. The poor areas of London, for example, have suffered greater cutbacks than the richer areas of London. Which, to be frank, is what you would expect a Tory led Govt to do ! english rose 1
  • Score: 3

2:49am Thu 20 Mar 14

Timefor says...

What's going on in London makes the Highland clearances look like nowt but a rehearsal. A saner, well-reasoned article/alternative can be found here, http://www.leftfootf
orward.org/2014/03/a
nother-tory-budget-t
hat-does-nothing-for
-the-north/

However, I have come to the view that the sooner we have local politicians who rather than wailing on about they are being forced to do this, that or the other and who put their money where their mouth is sort-of-thing by standing up for local people, rejecting the austerity argument and who refuse to cut/sell off our vital services then the better we and the country will be for it.
What's going on in London makes the Highland clearances look like nowt but a rehearsal. A saner, well-reasoned article/alternative can be found here, http://www.leftfootf orward.org/2014/03/a nother-tory-budget-t hat-does-nothing-for -the-north/ However, I have come to the view that the sooner we have local politicians who rather than wailing on about they are being forced to do this, that or the other and who put their money where their mouth is sort-of-thing by standing up for local people, rejecting the austerity argument and who refuse to cut/sell off our vital services then the better we and the country will be for it. Timefor
  • Score: -2

9:22am Thu 20 Mar 14

midas says...

english rose 1 wrote:
midas wrote: car parking charges and business rates aren't "government funding". Perhaps you can publish figures showing the percentage of residents in each Borough that actually pay council tax and how much arrears each council have. could it possibly be that more people pay council tax in London therefore there is more money in the council coffers?
Not really - generally Council Tax collection is higher in Lancashire Boroughs than London Boroughs. *
Can you explain? If CT collection is higher in Lancashire than, say, Westminster, what are the comparative arrears figures? How many band D houses are in Westminster? Is this not a case where the higher banded properties in Westminster subsidise the lower band houses?
[quote][p][bold]english rose 1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]midas[/bold] wrote: car parking charges and business rates aren't "government funding". Perhaps you can publish figures showing the percentage of residents in each Borough that actually pay council tax and how much arrears each council have. could it possibly be that more people pay council tax in London therefore there is more money in the council coffers?[/p][/quote]Not really - generally Council Tax collection is higher in Lancashire Boroughs than London Boroughs. *[/p][/quote]Can you explain? If CT collection is higher in Lancashire than, say, Westminster, what are the comparative arrears figures? How many band D houses are in Westminster? Is this not a case where the higher banded properties in Westminster subsidise the lower band houses? midas
  • Score: 4

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