East Lancashire lawyers on strike in row over legal aid changes

Burnley and Pendle Citizen: East Lancashire lawyers on strike in row over legal aid changes East Lancashire lawyers on strike in row over legal aid changes

SOLICITORS and barristers have gone on strike today in a row over changes to legal aid.

Disruption is expected at magistrates and crown courts today while lawyers protest against the proposed cuts.

Nick Dearing, from Donald Race and Newton, in Burnley, said: “This is not about fat cat lawyers.

“We do not expect to be rich, but we will not be able to continue to provide a decent service.

“The government is about to introduce a 17.5 per cent cut for doing legally aided work and that is on top of the effective reduction of fees.

“We are aware there is pressure on the public purse, but the reduction is so large that it will threaten the viability of firms.

“Particularly in deprived areas like parts of East Lancashire, people are vulnerable and we are concerned we will not be able to provide them with the necessary protection.”

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12:12pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Excluded again says...

Whilst I am no champion for lawyers, if I am ever wrongly accused of something I want a good lawyer fighting my corner, not a cheap lawyer.

Anyone of us could be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Whilst I am no champion for lawyers, if I am ever wrongly accused of something I want a good lawyer fighting my corner, not a cheap lawyer. Anyone of us could be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Excluded again
  • Score: 11

12:40pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

This lot looks as bad as the escaped villains also on this page, no lawyers who hide behind Human Rights to get convicted killers lighter sentences or in worst cases of altogether are scum. There attempts to try and extend trials to get more of OUR public money is a disgrace, you lot welcome to Joe Publics world, try working hard for a living instead of stealing from the public purse.
This lot looks as bad as the escaped villains also on this page, no lawyers who hide behind Human Rights to get convicted killers lighter sentences or in worst cases of altogether are scum. There attempts to try and extend trials to get more of OUR public money is a disgrace, you lot welcome to Joe Publics world, try working hard for a living instead of stealing from the public purse. Lancs - pensioner
  • Score: -1

1:47pm Fri 7 Mar 14

midas says...

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
This lot looks as bad as the escaped villains also on this page, no lawyers who hide behind Human Rights to get convicted killers lighter sentences or in worst cases of altogether are scum. There attempts to try and extend trials to get more of OUR public money is a disgrace, you lot welcome to Joe Publics world, try working hard for a living instead of stealing from the public purse.
What a load of rubbish you write! You obviously don't realise that the funding for cases is skewed towards immediate guilty pleas not dragging cases out!
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Can you explain how a lawyer "hides behind Human Rights"? You do understand that it isn't the job of the lawyer to determine whether the defendant is guilty - thats the job of the Jury or Magistrates.
[quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: This lot looks as bad as the escaped villains also on this page, no lawyers who hide behind Human Rights to get convicted killers lighter sentences or in worst cases of altogether are scum. There attempts to try and extend trials to get more of OUR public money is a disgrace, you lot welcome to Joe Publics world, try working hard for a living instead of stealing from the public purse.[/p][/quote]What a load of rubbish you write! You obviously don't realise that the funding for cases is skewed towards immediate guilty pleas not dragging cases out! . Can you explain how a lawyer "hides behind Human Rights"? You do understand that it isn't the job of the lawyer to determine whether the defendant is guilty - thats the job of the Jury or Magistrates. midas
  • Score: 6

1:51pm Fri 7 Mar 14

useyourhead says...

LOL the pose it that photo just makes them all look like petulant toddlers.
LOL the pose it that photo just makes them all look like petulant toddlers. useyourhead
  • Score: -4

5:04pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

midas wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
This lot looks as bad as the escaped villains also on this page, no lawyers who hide behind Human Rights to get convicted killers lighter sentences or in worst cases of altogether are scum. There attempts to try and extend trials to get more of OUR public money is a disgrace, you lot welcome to Joe Publics world, try working hard for a living instead of stealing from the public purse.
What a load of rubbish you write! You obviously don't realise that the funding for cases is skewed towards immediate guilty pleas not dragging cases out!
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Can you explain how a lawyer "hides behind Human Rights"? You do understand that it isn't the job of the lawyer to determine whether the defendant is guilty - thats the job of the Jury or Magistrates.
Hi Midas
Funnily enough I agree with you, having had a bad experience with a so called Lawyer and then getting out of bed on the wrong side this morning I decided to read my own post again,

Guilty as charged!
[quote][p][bold]midas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: This lot looks as bad as the escaped villains also on this page, no lawyers who hide behind Human Rights to get convicted killers lighter sentences or in worst cases of altogether are scum. There attempts to try and extend trials to get more of OUR public money is a disgrace, you lot welcome to Joe Publics world, try working hard for a living instead of stealing from the public purse.[/p][/quote]What a load of rubbish you write! You obviously don't realise that the funding for cases is skewed towards immediate guilty pleas not dragging cases out! . Can you explain how a lawyer "hides behind Human Rights"? You do understand that it isn't the job of the lawyer to determine whether the defendant is guilty - thats the job of the Jury or Magistrates.[/p][/quote]Hi Midas Funnily enough I agree with you, having had a bad experience with a so called Lawyer and then getting out of bed on the wrong side this morning I decided to read my own post again, Guilty as charged! Lancs - pensioner
  • Score: 2

5:57pm Fri 7 Mar 14

shytalk says...

Comments here about this are miss directed. This is not about lawyers, it's about legal aid or the removal of it.
When legal aid is removed by the corruption ( sorry government ) then the wealthy Tory elite will be able to buy the law.by being able to afford barristers to represent them. Unless you can afford that then forget being able to sue or make a claim against an individual or large corporation regardless of whatever it is they have done to you.
Comments here about this are miss directed. This is not about lawyers, it's about legal aid or the removal of it. When legal aid is removed by the corruption ( sorry government ) then the wealthy Tory elite will be able to buy the law.by being able to afford barristers to represent them. Unless you can afford that then forget being able to sue or make a claim against an individual or large corporation regardless of whatever it is they have done to you. shytalk
  • Score: 5

11:55pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Rumpole says...

How much more money do they need?

With fees from £150 per hour and upwards it is quite obvious that they believe only people with money to buy decent representation deserve to get one. If you can't pay and the legal aid won't pay for you then you are truly on your own.

Try dropping your prices a bit and take on more clients if you want more money, if you haven't got enough staff then employ some more to help with the work load and help student solicitors get some knowledge and experience with the preparation of cases for the qualified solicitors.

If everyone is supposed to be equal in law then everyone should be equal in getting equal access to the law!

If someone is only able to pay for the cheapest legal representation they can afford then the opposition costs must be the same, no more paying an opposition solicitor 10 times more then the other.

If the case has merit and is within the law then the law will decide the outcome not a solicitor that costs more so has acquired the skills of manipulating the law to suit his clients needs, the facts should decide the case.

Until Justice becomes a priority over money then things will only get worse!
How much more money do they need? With fees from £150 per hour and upwards it is quite obvious that they believe only people with money to buy decent representation deserve to get one. If you can't pay and the legal aid won't pay for you then you are truly on your own. Try dropping your prices a bit and take on more clients if you want more money, if you haven't got enough staff then employ some more to help with the work load and help student solicitors get some knowledge and experience with the preparation of cases for the qualified solicitors. If everyone is supposed to be equal in law then everyone should be equal in getting equal access to the law! If someone is only able to pay for the cheapest legal representation they can afford then the opposition costs must be the same, no more paying an opposition solicitor 10 times more then the other. If the case has merit and is within the law then the law will decide the outcome not a solicitor that costs more so has acquired the skills of manipulating the law to suit his clients needs, the facts should decide the case. Until Justice becomes a priority over money then things will only get worse! Rumpole
  • Score: 2

3:44pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Bluelizzy says...

I will bet that none of these lawyers are willing to tell us the exact hourly rate they charge.

We can all guess, with some informed accuracy. Sorry, no sympathy from me.

It does not require £100's per hour to come up with "My client was drunk at the time"... "It is totally out of character for my client"... "My client is a family man" "He cann't recall why he did it"... " He is very sorry" etc etc
I will bet that none of these lawyers are willing to tell us the exact hourly rate they charge. We can all guess, with some informed accuracy. Sorry, no sympathy from me. It does not require £100's per hour to come up with "My client was drunk at the time"... "It is totally out of character for my client"... "My client is a family man" "He cann't recall why he did it"... " He is very sorry" etc etc Bluelizzy
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