Burnley FC fury at 'homophobic' TV shame fans

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BOSSES at Burnley Football Club have condemned fans who were filmed undercover on a national TV programme apparently making homophobic chants.

Channel 4’s Dispatches programme on Monday night highlighted discriminatory and offensive behaviour at professional football matches in England.

Among the undercover footage shown was Clarets fans singing homophobic songs during the away game at Brighton and Hove Albion on August 24 last year.

Now bosses at the club are appealing for anybody who knows the individuals filmed to contact the club, confidentially, on info@burnleyfc.com. A Clarets spokesman said: “Burnley Football Club was extremely disappointed to appear in Channel 4’s Dispatches programme on Monday, March 3, 2014, highlighting discriminatory and offensive behaviour at professional football matches in England.

“Burnley Football Club’s Board of Directors, players and staff, along with the people of Burnley, reject all forms of discrimination.

“We pledge to tackle discrimination in all forms and make Turf Moor a safe and welcoming place for all. This information is included in the Customer Charter on the official club website.

To combat the issues highlighted, guidance notes were issued to all assist with clubs’ steward briefings, ahead of the Brighton game at Turf Moor on January 28, 2014. This information is also used for future briefings.

“Anyone witnessing instances of racist, homophobic, sexist or any other unwarranted form of behaviour is asked to report this to the nearest steward, or member of club staff.

“The club will not tolerate behaviour of this kind and will take the strictest possible action to remove those responsible.”

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9:43am Wed 5 Mar 14

hasslem hasslem says...

to be fair to burnley supporters they are not the only ones that engage in such mindless nonsense - but does it take an expose on ch4 dispatches for the club to become aware of such drivel. were the club's officials encased behind glass so they could not hear burnley fans' songs.

the programme was an easy piece of cheap tv journalism - particualarly the weztam fans at tottenham. what was telling was allardyce's statement as club front facing spokesman that such chanting and abuse will not be tolerated.....identi
fied by cctv...life ban....etc etc - the result being 2 arrests, whilst hundreds and possibly thousands were making their usual hilarious (sic) gassing noises at WHL.

when clubs say they are serious about stuff like this - they need to back it up with actions - but they never do.....so, it will always continue.

not often i feel sorry for dingles - but they just happened to be at brighton when the cameras were there - it could be any away club at brighton every other week.

personally, i would lock all burnley supporters up for being burnley supporters - but i suspect i wouldn't be allowed under some dubious law :-)
to be fair to burnley supporters they are not the only ones that engage in such mindless nonsense - but does it take an expose on ch4 dispatches for the club to become aware of such drivel. were the club's officials encased behind glass so they could not hear burnley fans' songs. the programme was an easy piece of cheap tv journalism - particualarly the weztam fans at tottenham. what was telling was allardyce's statement as club front facing spokesman that such chanting and abuse will not be tolerated.....identi fied by cctv...life ban....etc etc - the result being 2 arrests, whilst hundreds and possibly thousands were making their usual hilarious (sic) gassing noises at WHL. when clubs say they are serious about stuff like this - they need to back it up with actions - but they never do.....so, it will always continue. not often i feel sorry for dingles - but they just happened to be at brighton when the cameras were there - it could be any away club at brighton every other week. personally, i would lock all burnley supporters up for being burnley supporters - but i suspect i wouldn't be allowed under some dubious law :-) hasslem hasslem
  • Score: 22

9:49am Wed 5 Mar 14

DaveBurnley says...

I'm always suspicious of these 'revelations'. Did the TV crew encourage the singing and chanting before filming it? TV and the press have form for such acts and it would not surprise me one bit if it wasn't way overblown just to get the ratings up.
I'm always suspicious of these 'revelations'. Did the TV crew encourage the singing and chanting before filming it? TV and the press have form for such acts and it would not surprise me one bit if it wasn't way overblown just to get the ratings up. DaveBurnley
  • Score: 2

10:36am Wed 5 Mar 14

Roverthere says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
to be fair to burnley supporters they are not the only ones that engage in such mindless nonsense - but does it take an expose on ch4 dispatches for the club to become aware of such drivel. were the club's officials encased behind glass so they could not hear burnley fans' songs.

the programme was an easy piece of cheap tv journalism - particualarly the weztam fans at tottenham. what was telling was allardyce's statement as club front facing spokesman that such chanting and abuse will not be tolerated.....identi

fied by cctv...life ban....etc etc - the result being 2 arrests, whilst hundreds and possibly thousands were making their usual hilarious (sic) gassing noises at WHL.

when clubs say they are serious about stuff like this - they need to back it up with actions - but they never do.....so, it will always continue.

not often i feel sorry for dingles - but they just happened to be at brighton when the cameras were there - it could be any away club at brighton every other week.

personally, i would lock all burnley supporters up for being burnley supporters - but i suspect i wouldn't be allowed under some dubious law :-)
Agreed, lock them up!
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: to be fair to burnley supporters they are not the only ones that engage in such mindless nonsense - but does it take an expose on ch4 dispatches for the club to become aware of such drivel. were the club's officials encased behind glass so they could not hear burnley fans' songs. the programme was an easy piece of cheap tv journalism - particualarly the weztam fans at tottenham. what was telling was allardyce's statement as club front facing spokesman that such chanting and abuse will not be tolerated.....identi fied by cctv...life ban....etc etc - the result being 2 arrests, whilst hundreds and possibly thousands were making their usual hilarious (sic) gassing noises at WHL. when clubs say they are serious about stuff like this - they need to back it up with actions - but they never do.....so, it will always continue. not often i feel sorry for dingles - but they just happened to be at brighton when the cameras were there - it could be any away club at brighton every other week. personally, i would lock all burnley supporters up for being burnley supporters - but i suspect i wouldn't be allowed under some dubious law :-)[/p][/quote]Agreed, lock them up! Roverthere
  • Score: -5

11:27am Wed 5 Mar 14

Mikeee47 says...

Last time I knew we had freedom of speech in this country. a right to opinion, and speak freely, Now all being stripped from the British citizen. Why because we are allowing it.
The country was a far greater nation 20 -30 yrs ago.
Take these fans out of football and we'll have no supporters, they say freely what others say behind closed doors.
I learned sticks and stones.
Your all soft ar5es maybe a stint in the forces would open your eyes.
Putin' come and run my country..
Last time I knew we had freedom of speech in this country. a right to opinion, and speak freely, Now all being stripped from the British citizen. Why because we are allowing it. The country was a far greater nation 20 -30 yrs ago. Take these fans out of football and we'll have no supporters, they say freely what others say behind closed doors. I learned sticks and stones. Your all soft ar5es maybe a stint in the forces would open your eyes. Putin' come and run my country.. Mikeee47
  • Score: -17

11:44am Wed 5 Mar 14

Reality50 says...

Isn't a phobia a fear of something? Just because you may oppose or not like homosexuality does not mean you fear it. Homophobia is a ridiculous word.
Isn't a phobia a fear of something? Just because you may oppose or not like homosexuality does not mean you fear it. Homophobia is a ridiculous word. Reality50
  • Score: 5

12:22pm Wed 5 Mar 14

hasslem hasslem says...

Mikeee47 wrote:
Last time I knew we had freedom of speech in this country. a right to opinion, and speak freely, Now all being stripped from the British citizen. Why because we are allowing it.
The country was a far greater nation 20 -30 yrs ago.
Take these fans out of football and we'll have no supporters, they say freely what others say behind closed doors.
I learned sticks and stones.
Your all soft ar5es maybe a stint in the forces would open your eyes.
Putin' come and run my country..
nincampoop
[quote][p][bold]Mikeee47[/bold] wrote: Last time I knew we had freedom of speech in this country. a right to opinion, and speak freely, Now all being stripped from the British citizen. Why because we are allowing it. The country was a far greater nation 20 -30 yrs ago. Take these fans out of football and we'll have no supporters, they say freely what others say behind closed doors. I learned sticks and stones. Your all soft ar5es maybe a stint in the forces would open your eyes. Putin' come and run my country..[/p][/quote]nincampoop hasslem hasslem
  • Score: 2

12:27pm Wed 5 Mar 14

johnny rover says...

Huge amount of hypocrisy on this. Though I condemn any racist or homophobic actions its easy to find the odd few at any ground. What is worse is the hypocrisy of those in high places, e.g. Allardyce as Hasslem Hasslem notes. Even more so with the otherwise admirable Clarke Carlisle who I heard on Radio 5 talking about racism at football grounds. Carlisle said he had not personally heard racist chanting at football grounds. Obviously needs a hearing check as "Town full of Pakkis" is sung by thousands when Rovers visit Turf Moor.
Huge amount of hypocrisy on this. Though I condemn any racist or homophobic actions its easy to find the odd few at any ground. What is worse is the hypocrisy of those in high places, e.g. Allardyce as Hasslem Hasslem notes. Even more so with the otherwise admirable Clarke Carlisle who I heard on Radio 5 talking about racism at football grounds. Carlisle said he had not personally heard racist chanting at football grounds. Obviously needs a hearing check as "Town full of Pakkis" is sung by thousands when Rovers visit Turf Moor. johnny rover
  • Score: 7

12:56pm Wed 5 Mar 14

midas says...

Are the people singing "we can see you holding hands" doing it because they are homophobic or do so just to annoy Brighton fans?
Are the people singing "we can see you holding hands" doing it because they are homophobic or do so just to annoy Brighton fans? midas
  • Score: 6

1:14pm Wed 5 Mar 14

hasslem hasslem says...

midas wrote:
Are the people singing "we can see you holding hands" doing it because they are homophobic or do so just to annoy Brighton fans?
and weztam diamond geezers making hissing noises at WHL - just to annoy spuds fans.

really midas - you need to do better than that.

and as johnny rover says "town full of pakkis" sung by your burnley chums - is that just to annoy rovers fans?

acceptable - don't think so
[quote][p][bold]midas[/bold] wrote: Are the people singing "we can see you holding hands" doing it because they are homophobic or do so just to annoy Brighton fans?[/p][/quote]and weztam diamond geezers making hissing noises at WHL - just to annoy spuds fans. really midas - you need to do better than that. and as johnny rover says "town full of pakkis" sung by your burnley chums - is that just to annoy rovers fans? acceptable - don't think so hasslem hasslem
  • Score: -2

1:20pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Begbie says...

The documentary although raising credible issues was garbage. The host of the show thought it might be a good idea to pull individual fans from the "escort". Most footy fans know what the escort is for. It also picked on certain clubs. I seem to remember Brighton fans singing about Burnley being a **** hole when they came up. I could find this offensive. One sided garbage. A programme not without it's own agenda.
And I agree with the comment about wind up rather than fans being homophobic.
The documentary although raising credible issues was garbage. The host of the show thought it might be a good idea to pull individual fans from the "escort". Most footy fans know what the escort is for. It also picked on certain clubs. I seem to remember Brighton fans singing about Burnley being a **** hole when they came up. I could find this offensive. One sided garbage. A programme not without it's own agenda. And I agree with the comment about wind up rather than fans being homophobic. Begbie
  • Score: 1

2:15pm Wed 5 Mar 14

midas says...

"Obviously needs a hearing check as "Town full of Pakkis" is sung by thousands when Rovers visit Turf Moor".
.
I thought he was refering to the chants by the Rovers fans, together with the regular "disability hate crime" that all Rovers fans enjoy when singing about 6 fingered Dingles. I wont even start on the appaling mockery they make of victims of sexual assualt when they sing about "your mums your dad" etc.
.
To try to equate "we can see you holding hands" with the hissing sound imitating the gassing of tens of thousands of Jews is stretching (even your) credibility to its limit.
"Obviously needs a hearing check as "Town full of Pakkis" is sung by thousands when Rovers visit Turf Moor". . I thought he was refering to the chants by the Rovers fans, together with the regular "disability hate crime" that all Rovers fans enjoy when singing about 6 fingered Dingles. I wont even start on the appaling mockery they make of victims of sexual assualt when they sing about "your mums your dad" etc. . To try to equate "we can see you holding hands" with the hissing sound imitating the gassing of tens of thousands of Jews is stretching (even your) credibility to its limit. midas
  • Score: 6

2:40pm Wed 5 Mar 14

johnny rover says...

Midas has completely missed the point. Yes, we could come up with a hierarchy or offensiveness but I was highlighting the hypocrisy of those who are quick to condemn others whilst turning a blind eye to how thousands of their own behave right in front of them.
Midas has completely missed the point. Yes, we could come up with a hierarchy or offensiveness but I was highlighting the hypocrisy of those who are quick to condemn others whilst turning a blind eye to how thousands of their own behave right in front of them. johnny rover
  • Score: -1

3:27pm Wed 5 Mar 14

grimupnorth says...

Ban football, ban chanting homophobia, ban homosexuals, ban banter , ban everything and what are you left with? Taliban. We are getting there bit by bit
Ban football, ban chanting homophobia, ban homosexuals, ban banter , ban everything and what are you left with? Taliban. We are getting there bit by bit grimupnorth
  • Score: 11

3:34pm Wed 5 Mar 14

hasslem hasslem says...

midas wrote:
"Obviously needs a hearing check as "Town full of Pakkis" is sung by thousands when Rovers visit Turf Moor".
.
I thought he was refering to the chants by the Rovers fans, together with the regular "disability hate crime" that all Rovers fans enjoy when singing about 6 fingered Dingles. I wont even start on the appaling mockery they make of victims of sexual assualt when they sing about "your mums your dad" etc.
.
To try to equate "we can see you holding hands" with the hissing sound imitating the gassing of tens of thousands of Jews is stretching (even your) credibility to its limit.
is it midas? maybe in your eyes - but i am sure that many weztam fans think that hissing is just a jolly jape. i would be pretty sure that some weztam diamond geezers do't even know what its about - it is not the point. midas, clearly you have above average intelligence for a dingle - but surely you cannot defend your supporters (or any others, including rovers) from such chanting at brighton. if it causes offence - it causes offence. maybe the throwing of bananas at black players - is just intended to wind up the black players. how about spanish grand prix fans "blacking-up" to gently tease lewis hamilton.

the reality is offence is in the eye of the beholder and clearly the FA guidelines refer to all types of "phobia". the biggest problem is that the FA and other authorities issue guidelines and laws and fail to enforce them. if they did and say banned burnley fans (or rovers fans) from brighton then it would soon stop.

i was at turf moor on saturday as my dingle pal wanted someone to take his spare ticket and i listened to (about the only chant) a few thousand burnley fans wittingly sing "bring on the bas.tards" (step repeat). now i don't personally take offence at that - but some might.
[quote][p][bold]midas[/bold] wrote: "Obviously needs a hearing check as "Town full of Pakkis" is sung by thousands when Rovers visit Turf Moor". . I thought he was refering to the chants by the Rovers fans, together with the regular "disability hate crime" that all Rovers fans enjoy when singing about 6 fingered Dingles. I wont even start on the appaling mockery they make of victims of sexual assualt when they sing about "your mums your dad" etc. . To try to equate "we can see you holding hands" with the hissing sound imitating the gassing of tens of thousands of Jews is stretching (even your) credibility to its limit.[/p][/quote]is it midas? maybe in your eyes - but i am sure that many weztam fans think that hissing is just a jolly jape. i would be pretty sure that some weztam diamond geezers do't even know what its about - it is not the point. midas, clearly you have above average intelligence for a dingle - but surely you cannot defend your supporters (or any others, including rovers) from such chanting at brighton. if it causes offence - it causes offence. maybe the throwing of bananas at black players - is just intended to wind up the black players. how about spanish grand prix fans "blacking-up" to gently tease lewis hamilton. the reality is offence is in the eye of the beholder and clearly the FA guidelines refer to all types of "phobia". the biggest problem is that the FA and other authorities issue guidelines and laws and fail to enforce them. if they did and say banned burnley fans (or rovers fans) from brighton then it would soon stop. i was at turf moor on saturday as my dingle pal wanted someone to take his spare ticket and i listened to (about the only chant) a few thousand burnley fans wittingly sing "bring on the bas.tards" (step repeat). now i don't personally take offence at that - but some might. hasslem hasslem
  • Score: 1

3:36pm Wed 5 Mar 14

hasslem hasslem says...

grimupnorth wrote:
Ban football, ban chanting homophobia, ban homosexuals, ban banter , ban everything and what are you left with? Taliban. We are getting there bit by bit
i think you will find that homosexuality is punishable by stoning to death with the taliban - so, not really a valid argument.
[quote][p][bold]grimupnorth[/bold] wrote: Ban football, ban chanting homophobia, ban homosexuals, ban banter , ban everything and what are you left with? Taliban. We are getting there bit by bit[/p][/quote]i think you will find that homosexuality is punishable by stoning to death with the taliban - so, not really a valid argument. hasslem hasslem
  • Score: 0

4:06pm Wed 5 Mar 14

midas says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
midas wrote: "Obviously needs a hearing check as "Town full of Pakkis" is sung by thousands when Rovers visit Turf Moor". . I thought he was refering to the chants by the Rovers fans, together with the regular "disability hate crime" that all Rovers fans enjoy when singing about 6 fingered Dingles. I wont even start on the appaling mockery they make of victims of sexual assualt when they sing about "your mums your dad" etc. . To try to equate "we can see you holding hands" with the hissing sound imitating the gassing of tens of thousands of Jews is stretching (even your) credibility to its limit.
is it midas? maybe in your eyes - but i am sure that many weztam fans think that hissing is just a jolly jape. i would be pretty sure that some weztam diamond geezers do't even know what its about - it is not the point. midas, clearly you have above average intelligence for a dingle - but surely you cannot defend your supporters (or any others, including rovers) from such chanting at brighton. if it causes offence - it causes offence. maybe the throwing of bananas at black players - is just intended to wind up the black players. how about spanish grand prix fans "blacking-up" to gently tease lewis hamilton. the reality is offence is in the eye of the beholder and clearly the FA guidelines refer to all types of "phobia". the biggest problem is that the FA and other authorities issue guidelines and laws and fail to enforce them. if they did and say banned burnley fans (or rovers fans) from brighton then it would soon stop. i was at turf moor on saturday as my dingle pal wanted someone to take his spare ticket and i listened to (about the only chant) a few thousand burnley fans wittingly sing "bring on the bas.tards" (step repeat). now i don't personally take offence at that - but some might.
Yes it is. To whom does it cause offence? Brighton fans (in which case isn't it their homophobia that is the problem?), homosexual Brighton fans (what is actually offensive?) or homosexuals or all 3?
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]midas[/bold] wrote: "Obviously needs a hearing check as "Town full of Pakkis" is sung by thousands when Rovers visit Turf Moor". . I thought he was refering to the chants by the Rovers fans, together with the regular "disability hate crime" that all Rovers fans enjoy when singing about 6 fingered Dingles. I wont even start on the appaling mockery they make of victims of sexual assualt when they sing about "your mums your dad" etc. . To try to equate "we can see you holding hands" with the hissing sound imitating the gassing of tens of thousands of Jews is stretching (even your) credibility to its limit.[/p][/quote]is it midas? maybe in your eyes - but i am sure that many weztam fans think that hissing is just a jolly jape. i would be pretty sure that some weztam diamond geezers do't even know what its about - it is not the point. midas, clearly you have above average intelligence for a dingle - but surely you cannot defend your supporters (or any others, including rovers) from such chanting at brighton. if it causes offence - it causes offence. maybe the throwing of bananas at black players - is just intended to wind up the black players. how about spanish grand prix fans "blacking-up" to gently tease lewis hamilton. the reality is offence is in the eye of the beholder and clearly the FA guidelines refer to all types of "phobia". the biggest problem is that the FA and other authorities issue guidelines and laws and fail to enforce them. if they did and say banned burnley fans (or rovers fans) from brighton then it would soon stop. i was at turf moor on saturday as my dingle pal wanted someone to take his spare ticket and i listened to (about the only chant) a few thousand burnley fans wittingly sing "bring on the bas.tards" (step repeat). now i don't personally take offence at that - but some might.[/p][/quote]Yes it is. To whom does it cause offence? Brighton fans (in which case isn't it their homophobia that is the problem?), homosexual Brighton fans (what is actually offensive?) or homosexuals or all 3? midas
  • Score: 2

4:21pm Wed 5 Mar 14

PK Bailey says...

Holding hands offensive come on this is football and if you take the banter out of it we all might as well watch netball!Sorry, have i now offended another part of society!
Holding hands offensive come on this is football and if you take the banter out of it we all might as well watch netball!Sorry, have i now offended another part of society! PK Bailey
  • Score: 5

4:47pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Markr says...

Why should our PC government be allowed to corrupt peoples thinking by trying to get people to think it is normal to be anything but straight...
Let people of the same sex be together but watch how soon the human race dies out, it is not natural and people should accept that, but if they want to be like that let them be but I don't want to know it....
They will not go to heaven but will rot in hell like all the other evil people
Why should our PC government be allowed to corrupt peoples thinking by trying to get people to think it is normal to be anything but straight... Let people of the same sex be together but watch how soon the human race dies out, it is not natural and people should accept that, but if they want to be like that let them be but I don't want to know it.... They will not go to heaven but will rot in hell like all the other evil people Markr
  • Score: -4

4:49pm Wed 5 Mar 14

hasslem hasslem says...

midas wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
midas wrote: "Obviously needs a hearing check as "Town full of Pakkis" is sung by thousands when Rovers visit Turf Moor". . I thought he was refering to the chants by the Rovers fans, together with the regular "disability hate crime" that all Rovers fans enjoy when singing about 6 fingered Dingles. I wont even start on the appaling mockery they make of victims of sexual assualt when they sing about "your mums your dad" etc. . To try to equate "we can see you holding hands" with the hissing sound imitating the gassing of tens of thousands of Jews is stretching (even your) credibility to its limit.
is it midas? maybe in your eyes - but i am sure that many weztam fans think that hissing is just a jolly jape. i would be pretty sure that some weztam diamond geezers do't even know what its about - it is not the point. midas, clearly you have above average intelligence for a dingle - but surely you cannot defend your supporters (or any others, including rovers) from such chanting at brighton. if it causes offence - it causes offence. maybe the throwing of bananas at black players - is just intended to wind up the black players. how about spanish grand prix fans "blacking-up" to gently tease lewis hamilton. the reality is offence is in the eye of the beholder and clearly the FA guidelines refer to all types of "phobia". the biggest problem is that the FA and other authorities issue guidelines and laws and fail to enforce them. if they did and say banned burnley fans (or rovers fans) from brighton then it would soon stop. i was at turf moor on saturday as my dingle pal wanted someone to take his spare ticket and i listened to (about the only chant) a few thousand burnley fans wittingly sing "bring on the bas.tards" (step repeat). now i don't personally take offence at that - but some might.
Yes it is. To whom does it cause offence? Brighton fans (in which case isn't it their homophobia that is the problem?), homosexual Brighton fans (what is actually offensive?) or homosexuals or all 3?
i know you have big donkey ears midas - but i never would have had you down as a xenophobe.....pity.
[quote][p][bold]midas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]midas[/bold] wrote: "Obviously needs a hearing check as "Town full of Pakkis" is sung by thousands when Rovers visit Turf Moor". . I thought he was refering to the chants by the Rovers fans, together with the regular "disability hate crime" that all Rovers fans enjoy when singing about 6 fingered Dingles. I wont even start on the appaling mockery they make of victims of sexual assualt when they sing about "your mums your dad" etc. . To try to equate "we can see you holding hands" with the hissing sound imitating the gassing of tens of thousands of Jews is stretching (even your) credibility to its limit.[/p][/quote]is it midas? maybe in your eyes - but i am sure that many weztam fans think that hissing is just a jolly jape. i would be pretty sure that some weztam diamond geezers do't even know what its about - it is not the point. midas, clearly you have above average intelligence for a dingle - but surely you cannot defend your supporters (or any others, including rovers) from such chanting at brighton. if it causes offence - it causes offence. maybe the throwing of bananas at black players - is just intended to wind up the black players. how about spanish grand prix fans "blacking-up" to gently tease lewis hamilton. the reality is offence is in the eye of the beholder and clearly the FA guidelines refer to all types of "phobia". the biggest problem is that the FA and other authorities issue guidelines and laws and fail to enforce them. if they did and say banned burnley fans (or rovers fans) from brighton then it would soon stop. i was at turf moor on saturday as my dingle pal wanted someone to take his spare ticket and i listened to (about the only chant) a few thousand burnley fans wittingly sing "bring on the bas.tards" (step repeat). now i don't personally take offence at that - but some might.[/p][/quote]Yes it is. To whom does it cause offence? Brighton fans (in which case isn't it their homophobia that is the problem?), homosexual Brighton fans (what is actually offensive?) or homosexuals or all 3?[/p][/quote]i know you have big donkey ears midas - but i never would have had you down as a xenophobe.....pity. hasslem hasslem
  • Score: -1

5:12pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Mikeee47 says...

Its against the law to Burgar your wife yet its legal for gays to do it where is the right in that law? I have gay friends they slag each other off and I have banter with them too, are they offended? Im I offended? not in the slightest. But when its forced down my throat (pardon the pun) I do get the hump, we know it goes on etc yet we still get the ryan clarks, the Brians off BB. who camp up and try to shock us.
Its against the law to Burgar your wife yet its legal for gays to do it where is the right in that law? I have gay friends they slag each other off and I have banter with them too, are they offended? Im I offended? not in the slightest. But when its forced down my throat (pardon the pun) I do get the hump, we know it goes on etc yet we still get the ryan clarks, the Brians off BB. who camp up and try to shock us. Mikeee47
  • Score: -1

5:41pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Steven Seagull says...

Mikeee47 wrote:
Last time I knew we had freedom of speech in this country. a right to opinion, and speak freely, Now all being stripped from the British citizen. Why because we are allowing it.
The country was a far greater nation 20 -30 yrs ago.
Take these fans out of football and we'll have no supporters, they say freely what others say behind closed doors.
I learned sticks and stones.
Your all soft ar5es maybe a stint in the forces would open your eyes.
Putin' come and run my country..
Utter Bellwipe.
[quote][p][bold]Mikeee47[/bold] wrote: Last time I knew we had freedom of speech in this country. a right to opinion, and speak freely, Now all being stripped from the British citizen. Why because we are allowing it. The country was a far greater nation 20 -30 yrs ago. Take these fans out of football and we'll have no supporters, they say freely what others say behind closed doors. I learned sticks and stones. Your all soft ar5es maybe a stint in the forces would open your eyes. Putin' come and run my country..[/p][/quote]Utter Bellwipe. Steven Seagull
  • Score: 3

5:56pm Wed 5 Mar 14

rover95 says...

I don't even think its a big deal. The people who will be offended by this wont even go to football. A.M.F.
I don't even think its a big deal. The people who will be offended by this wont even go to football. A.M.F. rover95
  • Score: 3

6:18pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Mikeee47 says...

Steven Seagull wrote:
Mikeee47 wrote:
Last time I knew we had freedom of speech in this country. a right to opinion, and speak freely, Now all being stripped from the British citizen. Why because we are allowing it.
The country was a far greater nation 20 -30 yrs ago.
Take these fans out of football and we'll have no supporters, they say freely what others say behind closed doors.
I learned sticks and stones.
Your all soft ar5es maybe a stint in the forces would open your eyes.
Putin' come and run my country..
Utter Bellwipe.
elaborate
[quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mikeee47[/bold] wrote: Last time I knew we had freedom of speech in this country. a right to opinion, and speak freely, Now all being stripped from the British citizen. Why because we are allowing it. The country was a far greater nation 20 -30 yrs ago. Take these fans out of football and we'll have no supporters, they say freely what others say behind closed doors. I learned sticks and stones. Your all soft ar5es maybe a stint in the forces would open your eyes. Putin' come and run my country..[/p][/quote]Utter Bellwipe.[/p][/quote]elaborate Mikeee47
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11:46pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Stone Island: says...

I trust that Burnley Football Club will be as quick to condemn their moronic fans on Monday, after they've left a trail of destruction throughout East Lancashire, en route to and from Blackburn for Sunday's game. That will be: smashed up coaches, smashed up facilities at Ewood Park, possible damage to licensed premises, in particular working mens clubs, whilst seeking out OAP's to attack, etc etc.

Watch this space......
I trust that Burnley Football Club will be as quick to condemn their moronic fans on Monday, after they've left a trail of destruction throughout East Lancashire, en route to and from Blackburn for Sunday's game. That will be: smashed up coaches, smashed up facilities at Ewood Park, possible damage to licensed premises, in particular working mens clubs, whilst seeking out OAP's to attack, etc etc. Watch this space...... Stone Island:
  • Score: -2

6:26am Thu 6 Mar 14

Excluded again says...

Mikeee47 wrote:
Last time I knew we had freedom of speech in this country. a right to opinion, and speak freely, Now all being stripped from the British citizen. Why because we are allowing it.
The country was a far greater nation 20 -30 yrs ago.
Take these fans out of football and we'll have no supporters, they say freely what others say behind closed doors.
I learned sticks and stones.
Your all soft ar5es maybe a stint in the forces would open your eyes.
Putin' come and run my country..
How has their freedom of speech been affected? They have not been arrested or prosecuted. All that has happened is that their views have been broadcast on national TV. And they have been criticised - but being criticised is not a restriction on your freedom of speech.

Unless of course you define restricting freedom of speech as meaning 'being able to have your views put out on national TV'.
[quote][p][bold]Mikeee47[/bold] wrote: Last time I knew we had freedom of speech in this country. a right to opinion, and speak freely, Now all being stripped from the British citizen. Why because we are allowing it. The country was a far greater nation 20 -30 yrs ago. Take these fans out of football and we'll have no supporters, they say freely what others say behind closed doors. I learned sticks and stones. Your all soft ar5es maybe a stint in the forces would open your eyes. Putin' come and run my country..[/p][/quote]How has their freedom of speech been affected? They have not been arrested or prosecuted. All that has happened is that their views have been broadcast on national TV. And they have been criticised - but being criticised is not a restriction on your freedom of speech. Unless of course you define restricting freedom of speech as meaning 'being able to have your views put out on national TV'. Excluded again
  • Score: 3

9:16am Thu 6 Mar 14

eddio says...

grimupnorth wrote:
Ban football, ban chanting homophobia, ban homosexuals, ban banter , ban everything and what are you left with? Taliban. We are getting there bit by bit
Ban the Talis' as well!
[quote][p][bold]grimupnorth[/bold] wrote: Ban football, ban chanting homophobia, ban homosexuals, ban banter , ban everything and what are you left with? Taliban. We are getting there bit by bit[/p][/quote]Ban the Talis' as well! eddio
  • Score: 0

12:01pm Thu 6 Mar 14

accstan says...

rover95 wrote:
I don't even think its a big deal. The people who will be offended by this wont even go to football. A.M.F.
I really hope this is a tongue in cheeck comment or are you actually saying that gay people don't watch football?????
As to the tv show - let's face it, it's not an actual documentary - just a one sided attempt to shock people
[quote][p][bold]rover95[/bold] wrote: I don't even think its a big deal. The people who will be offended by this wont even go to football. A.M.F.[/p][/quote]I really hope this is a tongue in cheeck comment or are you actually saying that gay people don't watch football????? As to the tv show - let's face it, it's not an actual documentary - just a one sided attempt to shock people accstan
  • Score: 0

12:58pm Thu 6 Mar 14

rover95 says...

accstan wrote:
rover95 wrote:
I don't even think its a big deal. The people who will be offended by this wont even go to football. A.M.F.
I really hope this is a tongue in cheeck comment or are you actually saying that gay people don't watch football?????
As to the tv show - let's face it, it's not an actual documentary - just a one sided attempt to shock people
I am saying that gay or not, that this is part of been on the terraces. It's called banter. Happens at every club. I don't know why just this subject is made a big deal when fans get abuse every week which is ok but as soon as you mention homophobic stuff people jump on their high horse. It's banter, now get over it you do Goodyear.
[quote][p][bold]accstan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rover95[/bold] wrote: I don't even think its a big deal. The people who will be offended by this wont even go to football. A.M.F.[/p][/quote]I really hope this is a tongue in cheeck comment or are you actually saying that gay people don't watch football????? As to the tv show - let's face it, it's not an actual documentary - just a one sided attempt to shock people[/p][/quote]I am saying that gay or not, that this is part of been on the terraces. It's called banter. Happens at every club. I don't know why just this subject is made a big deal when fans get abuse every week which is ok but as soon as you mention homophobic stuff people jump on their high horse. It's banter, now get over it you do Goodyear. rover95
  • Score: 0

3:51pm Thu 6 Mar 14

idysalim says...

not surprising considering the lack of openly gay players in English football...its a culture that permeates throughout the game, similar to the 'town full of pakkis' chant..somehow the footballing authorities allow such disgusting behavior to go unpunished, would love to hear some views on this
not surprising considering the lack of openly gay players in English football...its a culture that permeates throughout the game, similar to the 'town full of pakkis' chant..somehow the footballing authorities allow such disgusting behavior to go unpunished, would love to hear some views on this idysalim
  • Score: 0

10:20pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Give_Kean_A_Chance says...

This is absolutely ridiculous. A bluddy joke. What is happening to this country with all the do good lefty liberals or whatever they are. You can't do this, you can't say that? Where do you draw the line? Black, white, gay, straight, fat, thin, ugly, ginger? Oh my god, it's not even school yard name calling. I can't believe I'm reading this
This is absolutely ridiculous. A bluddy joke. What is happening to this country with all the do good lefty liberals or whatever they are. You can't do this, you can't say that? Where do you draw the line? Black, white, gay, straight, fat, thin, ugly, ginger? Oh my god, it's not even school yard name calling. I can't believe I'm reading this Give_Kean_A_Chance
  • Score: 0

12:51am Sun 9 Mar 14

Darwen Malc says...

There are some decent football fans, but there are a lot of chanting, illiterate, moronic knuckle-draggers who infest the stands. They, collectively, have the brain cell power of an Amoeba who should never really have been given the chance of a life at birth, so obnoxious are their views. I just wish that all of the closet footballers would 'come out' and get the issue out into the open. Those professional footballers who don't, aren't just betraying themselves, but betraying the whole of the population who happen to be gay.
There are some decent football fans, but there are a lot of chanting, illiterate, moronic knuckle-draggers who infest the stands. They, collectively, have the brain cell power of an Amoeba who should never really have been given the chance of a life at birth, so obnoxious are their views. I just wish that all of the closet footballers would 'come out' and get the issue out into the open. Those professional footballers who don't, aren't just betraying themselves, but betraying the whole of the population who happen to be gay. Darwen Malc
  • Score: 0

7:17pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Mr.J.Jambone says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
Mikeee47 wrote:
Last time I knew we had freedom of speech in this country. a right to opinion, and speak freely, Now all being stripped from the British citizen. Why because we are allowing it.
The country was a far greater nation 20 -30 yrs ago.
Take these fans out of football and we'll have no supporters, they say freely what others say behind closed doors.
I learned sticks and stones.
Your all soft ar5es maybe a stint in the forces would open your eyes.
Putin' come and run my country..
nincampoop
Why is he a nincompoop for asserting our right to freedom of speech?

Are gay people in a special privileged class that means people are barred from making satirical references towards them?

I'll remind people that being a tolerant society does not mean banning people from voicing political opinions. No one has the right to bar anyone from voicing their beliefs. Tolerance is not supporting causes, it's putting up with those you don't like.

I don't like racism and homophobia, but I respect people's rights to be racist and homophobic, because I am tolerant.
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mikeee47[/bold] wrote: Last time I knew we had freedom of speech in this country. a right to opinion, and speak freely, Now all being stripped from the British citizen. Why because we are allowing it. The country was a far greater nation 20 -30 yrs ago. Take these fans out of football and we'll have no supporters, they say freely what others say behind closed doors. I learned sticks and stones. Your all soft ar5es maybe a stint in the forces would open your eyes. Putin' come and run my country..[/p][/quote]nincampoop[/p][/quote]Why is he a nincompoop for asserting our right to freedom of speech? Are gay people in a special privileged class that means people are barred from making satirical references towards them? I'll remind people that being a tolerant society does not mean banning people from voicing political opinions. No one has the right to bar anyone from voicing their beliefs. Tolerance is not supporting causes, it's putting up with those you don't like. I don't like racism and homophobia, but I respect people's rights to be racist and homophobic, because I am tolerant. Mr.J.Jambone
  • Score: 0

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