Burnley Royal Mail staff walk out as union rep is sacked

Burnley and Pendle Citizen: Communication Workers Union East Lancashire branch chairman Stuart Caddy’s dismissal has prompted Royal Mail staff to stage an unofficial walk out Communication Workers Union East Lancashire branch chairman Stuart Caddy’s dismissal has prompted Royal Mail staff to stage an unofficial walk out

ROYAL Mail staff in Burnley have staged an impromptu walk-out in support of a union colleague who they believe has been unfairly dismissed.

The walk out is in support of former Burnley Council leader Stuart Caddy, who is chair of the East Lancashire branch of the Communication Workers Union (CWU), and who has worked for Royal Mail for a number of years.

Royal Mail was forced to draft in managers and volunteers to deliver and collect mail following the walk-out. When asked about the nature of the dispute, a spokesperson refused to disclose the cause of the dispute.

A CWU spokesman said he could not discuss details of the case as it was pending an appeal, but said that staff had taken unofficial industrial action yesterday morning.

He said: “A trade union official has been dismissed and staff feel quite strongly about it and they’ve decided to walk out spontaneously.

“It is being dealt with through the national disciplinary process, but staff feel quite strongly this is a guy with long standing, very well respected, so they’ve taken some action in regard to solidarity with the person concerned.

“This person is well respected and has looked after these people for many years.

“An official request has also been put in by staff for an industrial action ballot. A request has been put to the national executive to conduct a national ballot.”

Royal Mail spokesperson Val Bodden said: “Royal Mail would like to apologise to customers in the BB10, BB11 and BB12 postcode areas affected by the unofficial strike taken this morning by colleagues at Burnley Delivery Office.

“Managerial and volunteer resource is being brought in to ensure the delivery of Special Delivery and Tracked items today and to continue collecting customers’ mail from post offices and businesses in the area.

“Royal Mail is fully committed to the process of trying to resolve concerns of postal workers in Burnley, by continuing to follow the national jointly agreed framework with the Communication Workers Union (CWU). We remain hopeful that the issues can be resolved locally.”

Mr Caddy was not available for comment yesterday.

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10:34am Wed 1 Jan 14

happycyclist says...

Stick together, guys. It's the only way you'll beat the b@stards. The Government sold us all out for profit and their managers will do their bidding to save their own craven arses. Good luck.
Stick together, guys. It's the only way you'll beat the b@stards. The Government sold us all out for profit and their managers will do their bidding to save their own craven arses. Good luck. happycyclist

10:42am Wed 1 Jan 14

shytalk says...

happycyclist wrote:
Stick together, guys. It's the only way you'll beat the b@stards. The Government sold us all out for profit and their managers will do their bidding to save their own craven arses. Good luck.
Sadly this government have reduced employment rights to ashes and no one is immune these days from being sacked unfairly.
There is no such thing now as a secure job and is one of the reasons the country is in such a sorry state. No one can plan for their future.
[quote][p][bold]happycyclist[/bold] wrote: Stick together, guys. It's the only way you'll beat the b@stards. The Government sold us all out for profit and their managers will do their bidding to save their own craven arses. Good luck.[/p][/quote]Sadly this government have reduced employment rights to ashes and no one is immune these days from being sacked unfairly. There is no such thing now as a secure job and is one of the reasons the country is in such a sorry state. No one can plan for their future. shytalk

10:46am Wed 1 Jan 14

Is Eckersley playing? says...

A little premature to take sides in a dispute in which you do not know the facts as to why he was sacked. A little patience is required before making rather wild statements.
A little premature to take sides in a dispute in which you do not know the facts as to why he was sacked. A little patience is required before making rather wild statements. Is Eckersley playing?

10:49am Wed 1 Jan 14

DaveBurnley says...

Unfortunately all that will happen is that more firms will turn to private mail delivery services. The government has managed to divide the people into squabbling groups and set each against each other.
Unfortunately all that will happen is that more firms will turn to private mail delivery services. The government has managed to divide the people into squabbling groups and set each against each other. DaveBurnley

10:57am Wed 1 Jan 14

madari says...

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:
A little premature to take sides in a dispute in which you do not know the facts as to why he was sacked. A little patience is required before making rather wild statements.
Madari the snake charmer says:

Couldn't agree with you more sir ....All Caddy has to do at the Burnley office is break wind and the rest will applaud ...bunch of fools should also be shown the door by royal mail...sack the lot and get workers in who want to work but cant find work at any cost .
[quote][p][bold]Is Eckersley playing?[/bold] wrote: A little premature to take sides in a dispute in which you do not know the facts as to why he was sacked. A little patience is required before making rather wild statements.[/p][/quote]Madari the snake charmer says: Couldn't agree with you more sir ....All Caddy has to do at the Burnley office is break wind and the rest will applaud ...bunch of fools should also be shown the door by royal mail...sack the lot and get workers in who want to work but cant find work at any cost . madari

10:58am Wed 1 Jan 14

madari says...

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:
A little premature to take sides in a dispute in which you do not know the facts as to why he was sacked. A little patience is required before making rather wild statements.
Madari the snake charmer says:

Couldn't agree with you more sir ....All Caddy has to do at the Burnley office is break wind and the rest will applaud ...bunch of fools should also be shown the door by royal mail...sack the lot and get workers in who want to work but cant find work at any cost .
[quote][p][bold]Is Eckersley playing?[/bold] wrote: A little premature to take sides in a dispute in which you do not know the facts as to why he was sacked. A little patience is required before making rather wild statements.[/p][/quote]Madari the snake charmer says: Couldn't agree with you more sir ....All Caddy has to do at the Burnley office is break wind and the rest will applaud ...bunch of fools should also be shown the door by royal mail...sack the lot and get workers in who want to work but cant find work at any cost . madari

11:16am Wed 1 Jan 14

Rich Riley says...

madari wrote:
Is Eckersley playing? wrote:
A little premature to take sides in a dispute in which you do not know the facts as to why he was sacked. A little patience is required before making rather wild statements.
Madari the snake charmer says:

Couldn't agree with you more sir ....All Caddy has to do at the Burnley office is break wind and the rest will applaud ...bunch of fools should also be shown the door by royal mail...sack the lot and get workers in who want to work but cant find work at any cost .
Well said.
[quote][p][bold]madari[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Is Eckersley playing?[/bold] wrote: A little premature to take sides in a dispute in which you do not know the facts as to why he was sacked. A little patience is required before making rather wild statements.[/p][/quote]Madari the snake charmer says: Couldn't agree with you more sir ....All Caddy has to do at the Burnley office is break wind and the rest will applaud ...bunch of fools should also be shown the door by royal mail...sack the lot and get workers in who want to work but cant find work at any cost .[/p][/quote]Well said. Rich Riley

11:19am Wed 1 Jan 14

mavrick says...

madari wrote:
Is Eckersley playing? wrote:
A little premature to take sides in a dispute in which you do not know the facts as to why he was sacked. A little patience is required before making rather wild statements.
Madari the snake charmer says:

Couldn't agree with you more sir ....All Caddy has to do at the Burnley office is break wind and the rest will applaud ...bunch of fools should also be shown the door by royal mail...sack the lot and get workers in who want to work but cant find work at any cost .
It is attitudes like this that have allowed workers rights to be eroded over the years, why shouldn't working people have protection from the vicious greedy employers who have driven wages down to the minimum. I hope people take courage from the postal workers who have said enough is enough. It is high time people stuck together as there is safety in numbers, Nothing frightens bad employers and governments like people organizing and using their strength. perhaps the tide is turning, people have seen the greed of the establishment
[quote][p][bold]madari[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Is Eckersley playing?[/bold] wrote: A little premature to take sides in a dispute in which you do not know the facts as to why he was sacked. A little patience is required before making rather wild statements.[/p][/quote]Madari the snake charmer says: Couldn't agree with you more sir ....All Caddy has to do at the Burnley office is break wind and the rest will applaud ...bunch of fools should also be shown the door by royal mail...sack the lot and get workers in who want to work but cant find work at any cost .[/p][/quote]It is attitudes like this that have allowed workers rights to be eroded over the years, why shouldn't working people have protection from the vicious greedy employers who have driven wages down to the minimum. I hope people take courage from the postal workers who have said enough is enough. It is high time people stuck together as there is safety in numbers, Nothing frightens bad employers and governments like people organizing and using their strength. perhaps the tide is turning, people have seen the greed of the establishment mavrick

11:29am Wed 1 Jan 14

Interocitor says...

madari wrote:
Is Eckersley playing? wrote: A little premature to take sides in a dispute in which you do not know the facts as to why he was sacked. A little patience is required before making rather wild statements.
Madari the snake charmer says: Couldn't agree with you more sir ....All Caddy has to do at the Burnley office is break wind and the rest will applaud ...bunch of fools should also be shown the door by royal mail...sack the lot and get workers in who want to work but cant find work at any cost .
"Couldn't agree with you more sir "

Haha. You're doing the exact opposite.
[quote][p][bold]madari[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Is Eckersley playing?[/bold] wrote: A little premature to take sides in a dispute in which you do not know the facts as to why he was sacked. A little patience is required before making rather wild statements.[/p][/quote]Madari the snake charmer says: Couldn't agree with you more sir ....All Caddy has to do at the Burnley office is break wind and the rest will applaud ...bunch of fools should also be shown the door by royal mail...sack the lot and get workers in who want to work but cant find work at any cost .[/p][/quote]"Couldn't agree with you more sir " Haha. You're doing the exact opposite. Interocitor

11:33am Wed 1 Jan 14

Interocitor says...

Well said, Mavrick.

Some people need to realise that we are talking about workers here, not slaves.
Well said, Mavrick. Some people need to realise that we are talking about workers here, not slaves. Interocitor

11:50am Wed 1 Jan 14

happycyclist says...

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:
A little premature to take sides in a dispute in which you do not know the facts as to why he was sacked. A little patience is required before making rather wild statements.
That's a fair comment, Eck, but an 'impromptu walkout' suggests that feelings were strong. Even union members understand that impromptu walkouts will probably result in disciplinary action for them, which in turn suggests solidarity for good reason.
[quote][p][bold]Is Eckersley playing?[/bold] wrote: A little premature to take sides in a dispute in which you do not know the facts as to why he was sacked. A little patience is required before making rather wild statements.[/p][/quote]That's a fair comment, Eck, but an 'impromptu walkout' suggests that feelings were strong. Even union members understand that impromptu walkouts will probably result in disciplinary action for them, which in turn suggests solidarity for good reason. happycyclist

1:44pm Wed 1 Jan 14

burner says...

Guys, this is the economic climate of 2014, not 1970 !
Guys, this is the economic climate of 2014, not 1970 ! burner

3:52pm Wed 1 Jan 14

burnleyiter says...

A group of them were sat in Wetherspoons yesterday lunchtime shouting, swearing and acting like a bunch of idiots....they didn't give a toss that there were other customers including children in the pub!
A group of them were sat in Wetherspoons yesterday lunchtime shouting, swearing and acting like a bunch of idiots....they didn't give a toss that there were other customers including children in the pub! burnleyiter

3:56pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Timefor says...

burner wrote:
Guys, this is the economic climate of 2014, not 1970 !
Aye and we're all heading for serfdom as we lose the class war which doesn't exist! The sooner at least our TradesUnions start to represent ordinary people the sooner ordinary people will not feel beholden to employers and the sooner employers will start to realise that the employer-employee relationship is a partnership and not a dictatorship.
[quote][p][bold]burner[/bold] wrote: Guys, this is the economic climate of 2014, not 1970 ![/p][/quote]Aye and we're all heading for serfdom as we lose the class war which doesn't exist! The sooner at least our TradesUnions start to represent ordinary people the sooner ordinary people will not feel beholden to employers and the sooner employers will start to realise that the employer-employee relationship is a partnership and not a dictatorship. Timefor

5:23pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Malthus says...

burnleyiter wrote:
A group of them were sat in Wetherspoons yesterday lunchtime shouting, swearing and acting like a bunch of idiots....they didn't give a toss that there were other customers including children in the pub!
Firstly as far as I am concerned the mail service is now a private business, why then is it allowed to use the prefix "Royal"? Secondly, with reference to "burnleyiter's" post I would say, I am not condoning boorish behaviour but what do people expect in pubs? It is my experience that in the UK, (sadly), people use public houses for the purpose of getting drunk . This is why I would question the reasons why children are allowed inside pubs in the first place. In my opinion I would argue that any establishment that is in the business of providing chemicals which affect mood and behaviour is not the right place for children to be. Don't get me wrong I do not approve of people who are unable to communicate without the need for swearing or being aggressive. However, I do get annoyed by people who take their children into adult environment's and then expect everyone else to modify their behaviour in order to accommodate these children. I believe that in order to qualify as a pub, an establishment should be child free. I personally refuse to patronise any business that allows children into a venue that is essentially a business dedicated to selling alcohol as it's primary purpose. I also question the parenting skills of people who go into ordinary pubs (not family themed bars). Often such parents, in my experience, are the types who are quite happy to get drunk whilst their children run around, irritate the clientèle and generally make nuisances of themselves. I for one would be quite happy for the police to wander in and ascertain whether the children are being adequately supervised and also if the parent's are drunk in charge of minors. For those who disagree ask yourselves, is it not a sad state of affairs if a parent has to argue about and justify why they should be able to spend their afternoon's in pubs with their children. No wonder Britain is on the ropes.
[quote][p][bold]burnleyiter[/bold] wrote: A group of them were sat in Wetherspoons yesterday lunchtime shouting, swearing and acting like a bunch of idiots....they didn't give a toss that there were other customers including children in the pub![/p][/quote]Firstly as far as I am concerned the mail service is now a private business, why then is it allowed to use the prefix "Royal"? Secondly, with reference to "burnleyiter's" post I would say, I am not condoning boorish behaviour but what do people expect in pubs? It is my experience that in the UK, (sadly), people use public houses for the purpose of getting drunk . This is why I would question the reasons why children are allowed inside pubs in the first place. In my opinion I would argue that any establishment that is in the business of providing chemicals which affect mood and behaviour is not the right place for children to be. Don't get me wrong I do not approve of people who are unable to communicate without the need for swearing or being aggressive. However, I do get annoyed by people who take their children into adult environment's and then expect everyone else to modify their behaviour in order to accommodate these children. I believe that in order to qualify as a pub, an establishment should be child free. I personally refuse to patronise any business that allows children into a venue that is essentially a business dedicated to selling alcohol as it's primary purpose. I also question the parenting skills of people who go into ordinary pubs (not family themed bars). Often such parents, in my experience, are the types who are quite happy to get drunk whilst their children run around, irritate the clientèle and generally make nuisances of themselves. I for one would be quite happy for the police to wander in and ascertain whether the children are being adequately supervised and also if the parent's are drunk in charge of minors. For those who disagree ask yourselves, is it not a sad state of affairs if a parent has to argue about and justify why they should be able to spend their afternoon's in pubs with their children. No wonder Britain is on the ropes. Malthus

6:10pm Wed 1 Jan 14

burnleyiter says...

Malthus wrote:
burnleyiter wrote:
A group of them were sat in Wetherspoons yesterday lunchtime shouting, swearing and acting like a bunch of idiots....they didn't give a toss that there were other customers including children in the pub!
Firstly as far as I am concerned the mail service is now a private business, why then is it allowed to use the prefix "Royal"? Secondly, with reference to "burnleyiter's" post I would say, I am not condoning boorish behaviour but what do people expect in pubs? It is my experience that in the UK, (sadly), people use public houses for the purpose of getting drunk . This is why I would question the reasons why children are allowed inside pubs in the first place. In my opinion I would argue that any establishment that is in the business of providing chemicals which affect mood and behaviour is not the right place for children to be. Don't get me wrong I do not approve of people who are unable to communicate without the need for swearing or being aggressive. However, I do get annoyed by people who take their children into adult environment's and then expect everyone else to modify their behaviour in order to accommodate these children. I believe that in order to qualify as a pub, an establishment should be child free. I personally refuse to patronise any business that allows children into a venue that is essentially a business dedicated to selling alcohol as it's primary purpose. I also question the parenting skills of people who go into ordinary pubs (not family themed bars). Often such parents, in my experience, are the types who are quite happy to get drunk whilst their children run around, irritate the clientèle and generally make nuisances of themselves. I for one would be quite happy for the police to wander in and ascertain whether the children are being adequately supervised and also if the parent's are drunk in charge of minors. For those who disagree ask yourselves, is it not a sad state of affairs if a parent has to argue about and justify why they should be able to spend their afternoon's in pubs with their children. No wonder Britain is on the ropes.
The People sat in Wetherspoons with their children were not getting drunk or allowing their children to run riot they were having a meal in peace as we were and if any children had been swearing ,making the amount of noise or hiding outside the Ladies loos to startle the female staff as they came out and shouting across the pub to their mates to tell them what they were doing I'm sure people would have complained about it. There were also elderly couples and disabled people in there as well who were subjected to the behaviour of these idiots!
[quote][p][bold]Malthus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]burnleyiter[/bold] wrote: A group of them were sat in Wetherspoons yesterday lunchtime shouting, swearing and acting like a bunch of idiots....they didn't give a toss that there were other customers including children in the pub![/p][/quote]Firstly as far as I am concerned the mail service is now a private business, why then is it allowed to use the prefix "Royal"? Secondly, with reference to "burnleyiter's" post I would say, I am not condoning boorish behaviour but what do people expect in pubs? It is my experience that in the UK, (sadly), people use public houses for the purpose of getting drunk . This is why I would question the reasons why children are allowed inside pubs in the first place. In my opinion I would argue that any establishment that is in the business of providing chemicals which affect mood and behaviour is not the right place for children to be. Don't get me wrong I do not approve of people who are unable to communicate without the need for swearing or being aggressive. However, I do get annoyed by people who take their children into adult environment's and then expect everyone else to modify their behaviour in order to accommodate these children. I believe that in order to qualify as a pub, an establishment should be child free. I personally refuse to patronise any business that allows children into a venue that is essentially a business dedicated to selling alcohol as it's primary purpose. I also question the parenting skills of people who go into ordinary pubs (not family themed bars). Often such parents, in my experience, are the types who are quite happy to get drunk whilst their children run around, irritate the clientèle and generally make nuisances of themselves. I for one would be quite happy for the police to wander in and ascertain whether the children are being adequately supervised and also if the parent's are drunk in charge of minors. For those who disagree ask yourselves, is it not a sad state of affairs if a parent has to argue about and justify why they should be able to spend their afternoon's in pubs with their children. No wonder Britain is on the ropes.[/p][/quote]The People sat in Wetherspoons with their children were not getting drunk or allowing their children to run riot they were having a meal in peace as we were and if any children had been swearing ,making the amount of noise or hiding outside the Ladies loos to startle the female staff as they came out and shouting across the pub to their mates to tell them what they were doing I'm sure people would have complained about it. There were also elderly couples and disabled people in there as well who were subjected to the behaviour of these idiots! burnleyiter

6:10pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Jimmy jangle says...

Well well well....how the tables have turned mr caddy. Why don't you get one of your union chums to fill your head with promises and bull just like "YOU" did 7 years ago with blackburn delivery office .no doubt you'll probably get back after your appeal as Union reps and managers usually do . Remember? .happy new year anyway and don't forget how you helped a liar at blackburn get a good pay out .
Well well well....how the tables have turned mr caddy. Why don't you get one of your union chums to fill your head with promises and bull just like "YOU" did 7 years ago with blackburn delivery office .no doubt you'll probably get back after your appeal as Union reps and managers usually do . Remember? .happy new year anyway and don't forget how you helped a liar at blackburn get a good pay out . Jimmy jangle

8:22pm Wed 1 Jan 14

fireonthemountain says...

Well , I have read some nonsense in my life but this is award winning .

So the guy worked for the Council and the Trade Union .

And The Royal Mail !!

Doing what exactly ? - sorting , posting , what ?

I have a lot of respect for postmen .

Out in all weathers , always facing the risk of being bitten by dogs .

I have utter contempt for the Unions .

Who are bunch of viscious vermin , determined to destroy Great Britain .

The Union members are forced to do what they are told for fear of recriminations .

Result ? - the destruction of once profitable industries .

The railways , steel , mining , shipbuilding etc etc .

And of course British Leyland .

Unions are marxist morons , who bully perfectly hard working people into obedience .

Woe betide you if you fail to pay your "subs" .

Len mc C runs the Liebour party - yet people will still vote for
the party that ruined the economy

How sad .
Well , I have read some nonsense in my life but this is award winning . So the guy worked for the Council and the Trade Union . And The Royal Mail !! Doing what exactly ? - sorting , posting , what ? I have a lot of respect for postmen . Out in all weathers , always facing the risk of being bitten by dogs . I have utter contempt for the Unions . Who are bunch of viscious vermin , determined to destroy Great Britain . The Union members are forced to do what they are told for fear of recriminations . Result ? - the destruction of once profitable industries . The railways , steel , mining , shipbuilding etc etc . And of course British Leyland . Unions are marxist morons , who bully perfectly hard working people into obedience . Woe betide you if you fail to pay your "subs" . Len mc C runs the Liebour party - yet people will still vote for the party that ruined the economy How sad . fireonthemountain

8:30pm Wed 1 Jan 14

psch says...

As a long standing union member myself I am disgusted at this action since the disciplinary process has not completed and this action by the CWU members is highly irresponsible.
To warrant dismissal the alleged offence is so serious that it was gross misconduct or Mr Caddy has such a poor disciplinary record that dismissal is inevitable. Since the employer is not a tin pot organisation with a Little Hitler in charge and this case involves a union official before any action was taken it would have been reviewed at a corporate level by a senior HR manager so there would have been a substantial case to answer.
Since Mr Caddy has already been dismissed and not suspended there must have already been a disciplinary hearing before an independent senior manager and since he is a union official he would have been accompanied by either an experienced senior official from the CWU or an employment lawyer appointed by the CWU. He will now have the opportunity to appeal which will be before yet another independent senior manager. After that he can go to an Employment Tribunal which despite popular myth would determine any case on substantive evidence.
As a long standing union member myself I am disgusted at this action since the disciplinary process has not completed and this action by the CWU members is highly irresponsible. To warrant dismissal the alleged offence is so serious that it was gross misconduct or Mr Caddy has such a poor disciplinary record that dismissal is inevitable. Since the employer is not a tin pot organisation with a Little Hitler in charge and this case involves a union official before any action was taken it would have been reviewed at a corporate level by a senior HR manager so there would have been a substantial case to answer. Since Mr Caddy has already been dismissed and not suspended there must have already been a disciplinary hearing before an independent senior manager and since he is a union official he would have been accompanied by either an experienced senior official from the CWU or an employment lawyer appointed by the CWU. He will now have the opportunity to appeal which will be before yet another independent senior manager. After that he can go to an Employment Tribunal which despite popular myth would determine any case on substantive evidence. psch

8:36pm Wed 1 Jan 14

mavrick says...

fireonthemountain wrote:
Well , I have read some nonsense in my life but this is award winning .

So the guy worked for the Council and the Trade Union .

And The Royal Mail !!

Doing what exactly ? - sorting , posting , what ?

I have a lot of respect for postmen .

Out in all weathers , always facing the risk of being bitten by dogs .

I have utter contempt for the Unions .

Who are bunch of viscious vermin , determined to destroy Great Britain .

The Union members are forced to do what they are told for fear of recriminations .

Result ? - the destruction of once profitable industries .

The railways , steel , mining , shipbuilding etc etc .

And of course British Leyland .

Unions are marxist morons , who bully perfectly hard working people into obedience .

Woe betide you if you fail to pay your "subs" .

Len mc C runs the Liebour party - yet people will still vote for
the party that ruined the economy

How sad .
What a load of outdated Tory claptrap. people have seen who are the real villains, the bankers, the accountants. As for vermin just look at the type of people you are looking up to.
[quote][p][bold]fireonthemountain[/bold] wrote: Well , I have read some nonsense in my life but this is award winning . So the guy worked for the Council and the Trade Union . And The Royal Mail !! Doing what exactly ? - sorting , posting , what ? I have a lot of respect for postmen . Out in all weathers , always facing the risk of being bitten by dogs . I have utter contempt for the Unions . Who are bunch of viscious vermin , determined to destroy Great Britain . The Union members are forced to do what they are told for fear of recriminations . Result ? - the destruction of once profitable industries . The railways , steel , mining , shipbuilding etc etc . And of course British Leyland . Unions are marxist morons , who bully perfectly hard working people into obedience . Woe betide you if you fail to pay your "subs" . Len mc C runs the Liebour party - yet people will still vote for the party that ruined the economy How sad .[/p][/quote]What a load of outdated Tory claptrap. people have seen who are the real villains, the bankers, the accountants. As for vermin just look at the type of people you are looking up to. mavrick

10:33pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Truth will out says...

It is exactly this kind of attitude that has seen the Royal Mail fall behind and lose so much business.

Customers? Who are they? Solidarity is more important. Right comrades?

There is zero justification for this strike. Customers should not have to suffer because a few people think it's 1974 not 2014. The disciplinary/appeal process could and should proceed WITHOUT disruption to the customer.

Notice the CW
It is exactly this kind of attitude that has seen the Royal Mail fall behind and lose so much business. Customers? Who are they? Solidarity is more important. Right comrades? There is zero justification for this strike. Customers should not have to suffer because a few people think it's 1974 not 2014. The disciplinary/appeal process could and should proceed WITHOUT disruption to the customer. Notice the CW Truth will out

10:40pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Truth will out says...

Notice the CWU spokesman makes not one reference to the customer. That says everything you need to know about their mindset.
Notice the CWU spokesman makes not one reference to the customer. That says everything you need to know about their mindset. Truth will out

11:18pm Wed 1 Jan 14

mrcool says...

Surprised no-one has blamed the Romanians or Muslims yet......that's usually the pattern with most stories on this website.
Surprised no-one has blamed the Romanians or Muslims yet......that's usually the pattern with most stories on this website. mrcool

11:59pm Wed 1 Jan 14

bmann2007 says...

Malthus wrote:
burnleyiter wrote:
A group of them were sat in Wetherspoons yesterday lunchtime shouting, swearing and acting like a bunch of idiots....they didn't give a toss that there were other customers including children in the pub!
Firstly as far as I am concerned the mail service is now a private business, why then is it allowed to use the prefix "Royal"? Secondly, with reference to "burnleyiter's" post I would say, I am not condoning boorish behaviour but what do people expect in pubs? It is my experience that in the UK, (sadly), people use public houses for the purpose of getting drunk . This is why I would question the reasons why children are allowed inside pubs in the first place. In my opinion I would argue that any establishment that is in the business of providing chemicals which affect mood and behaviour is not the right place for children to be. Don't get me wrong I do not approve of people who are unable to communicate without the need for swearing or being aggressive. However, I do get annoyed by people who take their children into adult environment's and then expect everyone else to modify their behaviour in order to accommodate these children. I believe that in order to qualify as a pub, an establishment should be child free. I personally refuse to patronise any business that allows children into a venue that is essentially a business dedicated to selling alcohol as it's primary purpose. I also question the parenting skills of people who go into ordinary pubs (not family themed bars). Often such parents, in my experience, are the types who are quite happy to get drunk whilst their children run around, irritate the clientèle and generally make nuisances of themselves. I for one would be quite happy for the police to wander in and ascertain whether the children are being adequately supervised and also if the parent's are drunk in charge of minors. For those who disagree ask yourselves, is it not a sad state of affairs if a parent has to argue about and justify why they should be able to spend their afternoon's in pubs with their children. No wonder Britain is on the ropes.
Bloody Idiots Cannot they see that a plane full of immigrants have landed at Manchester ready to walk into their in the Morning no sympathy from me
[quote][p][bold]Malthus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]burnleyiter[/bold] wrote: A group of them were sat in Wetherspoons yesterday lunchtime shouting, swearing and acting like a bunch of idiots....they didn't give a toss that there were other customers including children in the pub![/p][/quote]Firstly as far as I am concerned the mail service is now a private business, why then is it allowed to use the prefix "Royal"? Secondly, with reference to "burnleyiter's" post I would say, I am not condoning boorish behaviour but what do people expect in pubs? It is my experience that in the UK, (sadly), people use public houses for the purpose of getting drunk . This is why I would question the reasons why children are allowed inside pubs in the first place. In my opinion I would argue that any establishment that is in the business of providing chemicals which affect mood and behaviour is not the right place for children to be. Don't get me wrong I do not approve of people who are unable to communicate without the need for swearing or being aggressive. However, I do get annoyed by people who take their children into adult environment's and then expect everyone else to modify their behaviour in order to accommodate these children. I believe that in order to qualify as a pub, an establishment should be child free. I personally refuse to patronise any business that allows children into a venue that is essentially a business dedicated to selling alcohol as it's primary purpose. I also question the parenting skills of people who go into ordinary pubs (not family themed bars). Often such parents, in my experience, are the types who are quite happy to get drunk whilst their children run around, irritate the clientèle and generally make nuisances of themselves. I for one would be quite happy for the police to wander in and ascertain whether the children are being adequately supervised and also if the parent's are drunk in charge of minors. For those who disagree ask yourselves, is it not a sad state of affairs if a parent has to argue about and justify why they should be able to spend their afternoon's in pubs with their children. No wonder Britain is on the ropes.[/p][/quote]Bloody Idiots Cannot they see that a plane full of immigrants have landed at Manchester ready to walk into their in the Morning no sympathy from me bmann2007

12:30am Thu 2 Jan 14

fireonthemountain says...

Truth will out - superb posts mate .

Now , good people , let us look at some FACTS .

Firemen are running a series of strikes .

Do they want to ? - I know a few firemen and women .
They are very brave - certainly I could not walk into a burning building ,
They are , in my opinion FORCED into striking .

Let us continue .

Many years ago British Rail employees were FORCED into striking .
They lost two massive contracts - Royal Mail , and the Newspapers .
Never got them back .

More ? - Sure - The miners - yes the horrible violence of the '80s .
"Coal" was no longer needed to the extent it had been needed before ,
Who suffered ? - not Arthur Scargill .

Do I have personal experience ? Oh yes .

I joined a certain company - long long time ago .
When life was not so good ,
There were four of us trainees .

We were asked if we would like to join the Union .
We all said "no thanks" - the guy who was training us
told us that joining the Union was not compulsory ....but
the company was 100% unionised and that others might
not make our lives easy .

He of course was the guy who decided whether we got full time jobs .

We joined the Union . Suprise suprise We were FORCED to .

At a meeting some weeks later , when strike action was being discussed , I spoke out against this .

I was sacked within a fortnight .

Again I say - the Unions have destroyed this countries manufacturing .

Look at Ford - remember their huge Dagenham plant ?
Their Halewood plant ? Bridgend ? Southampton ?

Don't forget their Jaguar and Land Rover plants .

Plagued with strikes - at the drop of a hat .

Ford vehicle production now in Great Britain ?

ZERO .

Thank you very much Unions .

How sad .
Truth will out - superb posts mate . Now , good people , let us look at some FACTS . Firemen are running a series of strikes . Do they want to ? - I know a few firemen and women . They are very brave - certainly I could not walk into a burning building , They are , in my opinion FORCED into striking . Let us continue . Many years ago British Rail employees were FORCED into striking . They lost two massive contracts - Royal Mail , and the Newspapers . Never got them back . More ? - Sure - The miners - yes the horrible violence of the '80s . "Coal" was no longer needed to the extent it had been needed before , Who suffered ? - not Arthur Scargill . Do I have personal experience ? Oh yes . I joined a certain company - long long time ago . When life was not so good , There were four of us trainees . We were asked if we would like to join the Union . We all said "no thanks" - the guy who was training us told us that joining the Union was not compulsory ....but the company was 100% unionised and that others might not make our lives easy . He of course was the guy who decided whether we got full time jobs . We joined the Union . Suprise suprise We were FORCED to . At a meeting some weeks later , when strike action was being discussed , I spoke out against this . I was sacked within a fortnight . Again I say - the Unions have destroyed this countries manufacturing . Look at Ford - remember their huge Dagenham plant ? Their Halewood plant ? Bridgend ? Southampton ? Don't forget their Jaguar and Land Rover plants . Plagued with strikes - at the drop of a hat . Ford vehicle production now in Great Britain ? ZERO . Thank you very much Unions . How sad . fireonthemountain

6:24am Thu 2 Jan 14

Claret1966 says...

What goes around, comes around Mr (****) Caddy
What goes around, comes around Mr (****) Caddy Claret1966

12:19pm Thu 2 Jan 14

FakeVilla_MTCabinet says...

fireonthemountain wrote:
Well , I have read some nonsense in my life but this is award winning .

So the guy worked for the Council and the Trade Union .

And The Royal Mail !!

Doing what exactly ? - sorting , posting , what ?

I have a lot of respect for postmen .

Out in all weathers , always facing the risk of being bitten by dogs .

I have utter contempt for the Unions .

Who are bunch of viscious vermin , determined to destroy Great Britain .

The Union members are forced to do what they are told for fear of recriminations .

Result ? - the destruction of once profitable industries .

The railways , steel , mining , shipbuilding etc etc .

And of course British Leyland .

Unions are marxist morons , who bully perfectly hard working people into obedience .

Woe betide you if you fail to pay your "subs" .

Len mc C runs the Liebour party - yet people will still vote for
the party that ruined the economy

How sad .
Ruined the economy??, unlike the tories who sell off all public owned institutions to prop up their failure in this area. Gas, water, Electric, Railways and now the royal mail. All monies churned back in to fudge their failure and create more and bigger bonuses for their old school tie network of wall crawlers. And idiots like you keep voting them back in.
[quote][p][bold]fireonthemountain[/bold] wrote: Well , I have read some nonsense in my life but this is award winning . So the guy worked for the Council and the Trade Union . And The Royal Mail !! Doing what exactly ? - sorting , posting , what ? I have a lot of respect for postmen . Out in all weathers , always facing the risk of being bitten by dogs . I have utter contempt for the Unions . Who are bunch of viscious vermin , determined to destroy Great Britain . The Union members are forced to do what they are told for fear of recriminations . Result ? - the destruction of once profitable industries . The railways , steel , mining , shipbuilding etc etc . And of course British Leyland . Unions are marxist morons , who bully perfectly hard working people into obedience . Woe betide you if you fail to pay your "subs" . Len mc C runs the Liebour party - yet people will still vote for the party that ruined the economy How sad .[/p][/quote]Ruined the economy??, unlike the tories who sell off all public owned institutions to prop up their failure in this area. Gas, water, Electric, Railways and now the royal mail. All monies churned back in to fudge their failure and create more and bigger bonuses for their old school tie network of wall crawlers. And idiots like you keep voting them back in. FakeVilla_MTCabinet

12:28pm Thu 2 Jan 14

FakeVilla_MTCabinet says...

fireonthemountain wrote:
Truth will out - superb posts mate .

Now , good people , let us look at some FACTS .

Firemen are running a series of strikes .

Do they want to ? - I know a few firemen and women .
They are very brave - certainly I could not walk into a burning building ,
They are , in my opinion FORCED into striking .

Let us continue .

Many years ago British Rail employees were FORCED into striking .
They lost two massive contracts - Royal Mail , and the Newspapers .
Never got them back .

More ? - Sure - The miners - yes the horrible violence of the '80s .
"Coal" was no longer needed to the extent it had been needed before ,
Who suffered ? - not Arthur Scargill .

Do I have personal experience ? Oh yes .

I joined a certain company - long long time ago .
When life was not so good ,
There were four of us trainees .

We were asked if we would like to join the Union .
We all said "no thanks" - the guy who was training us
told us that joining the Union was not compulsory ....but
the company was 100% unionised and that others might
not make our lives easy .

He of course was the guy who decided whether we got full time jobs .

We joined the Union . Suprise suprise We were FORCED to .

At a meeting some weeks later , when strike action was being discussed , I spoke out against this .

I was sacked within a fortnight .

Again I say - the Unions have destroyed this countries manufacturing .

Look at Ford - remember their huge Dagenham plant ?
Their Halewood plant ? Bridgend ? Southampton ?

Don't forget their Jaguar and Land Rover plants .

Plagued with strikes - at the drop of a hat .

Ford vehicle production now in Great Britain ?

ZERO .

Thank you very much Unions .

How sad .
When British rail was a public owned company they had a death rate of four deaths a year due to accidents and poor maintenance.
Since privatization it is now up to 200 a year. This is unacceptable but overlooked as now it is much more efficient.
They can produce 196 more deaths a year due to bad maintenance and lack of safety. So all in all, its a massive improvement on output of death.
The tories you've just gotta love em
[quote][p][bold]fireonthemountain[/bold] wrote: Truth will out - superb posts mate . Now , good people , let us look at some FACTS . Firemen are running a series of strikes . Do they want to ? - I know a few firemen and women . They are very brave - certainly I could not walk into a burning building , They are , in my opinion FORCED into striking . Let us continue . Many years ago British Rail employees were FORCED into striking . They lost two massive contracts - Royal Mail , and the Newspapers . Never got them back . More ? - Sure - The miners - yes the horrible violence of the '80s . "Coal" was no longer needed to the extent it had been needed before , Who suffered ? - not Arthur Scargill . Do I have personal experience ? Oh yes . I joined a certain company - long long time ago . When life was not so good , There were four of us trainees . We were asked if we would like to join the Union . We all said "no thanks" - the guy who was training us told us that joining the Union was not compulsory ....but the company was 100% unionised and that others might not make our lives easy . He of course was the guy who decided whether we got full time jobs . We joined the Union . Suprise suprise We were FORCED to . At a meeting some weeks later , when strike action was being discussed , I spoke out against this . I was sacked within a fortnight . Again I say - the Unions have destroyed this countries manufacturing . Look at Ford - remember their huge Dagenham plant ? Their Halewood plant ? Bridgend ? Southampton ? Don't forget their Jaguar and Land Rover plants . Plagued with strikes - at the drop of a hat . Ford vehicle production now in Great Britain ? ZERO . Thank you very much Unions . How sad .[/p][/quote]When British rail was a public owned company they had a death rate of four deaths a year due to accidents and poor maintenance. Since privatization it is now up to 200 a year. This is unacceptable but overlooked as now it is much more efficient. They can produce 196 more deaths a year due to bad maintenance and lack of safety. So all in all, its a massive improvement on output of death. The tories you've just gotta love em FakeVilla_MTCabinet

1:37pm Thu 2 Jan 14

RoverTheHill says...

FakeVilla_MTCabinet wrote:
fireonthemountain wrote:
Truth will out - superb posts mate .

Now , good people , let us look at some FACTS .

Firemen are running a series of strikes .

Do they want to ? - I know a few firemen and women .
They are very brave - certainly I could not walk into a burning building ,
They are , in my opinion FORCED into striking .

Let us continue .

Many years ago British Rail employees were FORCED into striking .
They lost two massive contracts - Royal Mail , and the Newspapers .
Never got them back .

More ? - Sure - The miners - yes the horrible violence of the '80s .
"Coal" was no longer needed to the extent it had been needed before ,
Who suffered ? - not Arthur Scargill .

Do I have personal experience ? Oh yes .

I joined a certain company - long long time ago .
When life was not so good ,
There were four of us trainees .

We were asked if we would like to join the Union .
We all said "no thanks" - the guy who was training us
told us that joining the Union was not compulsory ....but
the company was 100% unionised and that others might
not make our lives easy .

He of course was the guy who decided whether we got full time jobs .

We joined the Union . Suprise suprise We were FORCED to .

At a meeting some weeks later , when strike action was being discussed , I spoke out against this .

I was sacked within a fortnight .

Again I say - the Unions have destroyed this countries manufacturing .

Look at Ford - remember their huge Dagenham plant ?
Their Halewood plant ? Bridgend ? Southampton ?

Don't forget their Jaguar and Land Rover plants .

Plagued with strikes - at the drop of a hat .

Ford vehicle production now in Great Britain ?

ZERO .

Thank you very much Unions .

How sad .
When British rail was a public owned company they had a death rate of four deaths a year due to accidents and poor maintenance.
Since privatization it is now up to 200 a year. This is unacceptable but overlooked as now it is much more efficient.
They can produce 196 more deaths a year due to bad maintenance and lack of safety. So all in all, its a massive improvement on output of death.
The tories you've just gotta love em
Let me start by saying what utter rubbish you are spewing! 200 a year? from 4 a year? What rubbish. Post-privatisation from 1995 - 2012 there was a total of 89 deaths! Don't believe me? Go check the figures numbskull!

So over a period of 17 years thats just over 5 a year when privately owned with a much higher population. Looking at 1978-1995 (17 years as a PUBLIC service), 134 deaths. Thats nearly 8 deaths a year whilst PUBLICLY owned! Next time you're going to lie about things lie about FACTS not your own misguided opinion!
[quote][p][bold]FakeVilla_MTCabinet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fireonthemountain[/bold] wrote: Truth will out - superb posts mate . Now , good people , let us look at some FACTS . Firemen are running a series of strikes . Do they want to ? - I know a few firemen and women . They are very brave - certainly I could not walk into a burning building , They are , in my opinion FORCED into striking . Let us continue . Many years ago British Rail employees were FORCED into striking . They lost two massive contracts - Royal Mail , and the Newspapers . Never got them back . More ? - Sure - The miners - yes the horrible violence of the '80s . "Coal" was no longer needed to the extent it had been needed before , Who suffered ? - not Arthur Scargill . Do I have personal experience ? Oh yes . I joined a certain company - long long time ago . When life was not so good , There were four of us trainees . We were asked if we would like to join the Union . We all said "no thanks" - the guy who was training us told us that joining the Union was not compulsory ....but the company was 100% unionised and that others might not make our lives easy . He of course was the guy who decided whether we got full time jobs . We joined the Union . Suprise suprise We were FORCED to . At a meeting some weeks later , when strike action was being discussed , I spoke out against this . I was sacked within a fortnight . Again I say - the Unions have destroyed this countries manufacturing . Look at Ford - remember their huge Dagenham plant ? Their Halewood plant ? Bridgend ? Southampton ? Don't forget their Jaguar and Land Rover plants . Plagued with strikes - at the drop of a hat . Ford vehicle production now in Great Britain ? ZERO . Thank you very much Unions . How sad .[/p][/quote]When British rail was a public owned company they had a death rate of four deaths a year due to accidents and poor maintenance. Since privatization it is now up to 200 a year. This is unacceptable but overlooked as now it is much more efficient. They can produce 196 more deaths a year due to bad maintenance and lack of safety. So all in all, its a massive improvement on output of death. The tories you've just gotta love em[/p][/quote]Let me start by saying what utter rubbish you are spewing! 200 a year? from 4 a year? What rubbish. Post-privatisation from 1995 - 2012 there was a total of 89 deaths! Don't believe me? Go check the figures numbskull! So over a period of 17 years thats just over 5 a year when privately owned with a much higher population. Looking at 1978-1995 (17 years as a PUBLIC service), 134 deaths. Thats nearly 8 deaths a year whilst PUBLICLY owned! Next time you're going to lie about things lie about FACTS not your own misguided opinion! RoverTheHill

4:25pm Thu 2 Jan 14

pdb951 says...

shytalk wrote:
happycyclist wrote:
Stick together, guys. It's the only way you'll beat the b@stards. The Government sold us all out for profit and their managers will do their bidding to save their own craven arses. Good luck.
Sadly this government have reduced employment rights to ashes and no one is immune these days from being sacked unfairly.
There is no such thing now as a secure job and is one of the reasons the country is in such a sorry state. No one can plan for their future.
Rubbish
[quote][p][bold]shytalk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]happycyclist[/bold] wrote: Stick together, guys. It's the only way you'll beat the b@stards. The Government sold us all out for profit and their managers will do their bidding to save their own craven arses. Good luck.[/p][/quote]Sadly this government have reduced employment rights to ashes and no one is immune these days from being sacked unfairly. There is no such thing now as a secure job and is one of the reasons the country is in such a sorry state. No one can plan for their future.[/p][/quote]Rubbish pdb951

4:27pm Thu 2 Jan 14

pdb951 says...

happycyclist wrote:
Is Eckersley playing? wrote:
A little premature to take sides in a dispute in which you do not know the facts as to why he was sacked. A little patience is required before making rather wild statements.
That's a fair comment, Eck, but an 'impromptu walkout' suggests that feelings were strong. Even union members understand that impromptu walkouts will probably result in disciplinary action for them, which in turn suggests solidarity for good reason.
Or Sheep
[quote][p][bold]happycyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Is Eckersley playing?[/bold] wrote: A little premature to take sides in a dispute in which you do not know the facts as to why he was sacked. A little patience is required before making rather wild statements.[/p][/quote]That's a fair comment, Eck, but an 'impromptu walkout' suggests that feelings were strong. Even union members understand that impromptu walkouts will probably result in disciplinary action for them, which in turn suggests solidarity for good reason.[/p][/quote]Or Sheep pdb951

10:29pm Thu 2 Jan 14

andy1 says...

fireonthemountain wrote:
Truth will out - superb posts mate .

Now , good people , let us look at some FACTS .

Firemen are running a series of strikes .

Do they want to ? - I know a few firemen and women .
They are very brave - certainly I could not walk into a burning building ,
They are , in my opinion FORCED into striking .

Let us continue .

Many years ago British Rail employees were FORCED into striking .
They lost two massive contracts - Royal Mail , and the Newspapers .
Never got them back .

More ? - Sure - The miners - yes the horrible violence of the '80s .
"Coal" was no longer needed to the extent it had been needed before ,
Who suffered ? - not Arthur Scargill .

Do I have personal experience ? Oh yes .

I joined a certain company - long long time ago .
When life was not so good ,
There were four of us trainees .

We were asked if we would like to join the Union .
We all said "no thanks" - the guy who was training us
told us that joining the Union was not compulsory ....but
the company was 100% unionised and that others might
not make our lives easy .

He of course was the guy who decided whether we got full time jobs .

We joined the Union . Suprise suprise We were FORCED to .

At a meeting some weeks later , when strike action was being discussed , I spoke out against this .

I was sacked within a fortnight .

Again I say - the Unions have destroyed this countries manufacturing .

Look at Ford - remember their huge Dagenham plant ?
Their Halewood plant ? Bridgend ? Southampton ?

Don't forget their Jaguar and Land Rover plants .

Plagued with strikes - at the drop of a hat .

Ford vehicle production now in Great Britain ?

ZERO .

Thank you very much Unions .

How sad .
You wouldnt be allowed in a Union no doubt if you did you would end up being a scab like you have just basically pointed out. You will be one of these who kiss the boss's behinds to get promotion etc.
[quote][p][bold]fireonthemountain[/bold] wrote: Truth will out - superb posts mate . Now , good people , let us look at some FACTS . Firemen are running a series of strikes . Do they want to ? - I know a few firemen and women . They are very brave - certainly I could not walk into a burning building , They are , in my opinion FORCED into striking . Let us continue . Many years ago British Rail employees were FORCED into striking . They lost two massive contracts - Royal Mail , and the Newspapers . Never got them back . More ? - Sure - The miners - yes the horrible violence of the '80s . "Coal" was no longer needed to the extent it had been needed before , Who suffered ? - not Arthur Scargill . Do I have personal experience ? Oh yes . I joined a certain company - long long time ago . When life was not so good , There were four of us trainees . We were asked if we would like to join the Union . We all said "no thanks" - the guy who was training us told us that joining the Union was not compulsory ....but the company was 100% unionised and that others might not make our lives easy . He of course was the guy who decided whether we got full time jobs . We joined the Union . Suprise suprise We were FORCED to . At a meeting some weeks later , when strike action was being discussed , I spoke out against this . I was sacked within a fortnight . Again I say - the Unions have destroyed this countries manufacturing . Look at Ford - remember their huge Dagenham plant ? Their Halewood plant ? Bridgend ? Southampton ? Don't forget their Jaguar and Land Rover plants . Plagued with strikes - at the drop of a hat . Ford vehicle production now in Great Britain ? ZERO . Thank you very much Unions . How sad .[/p][/quote]You wouldnt be allowed in a Union no doubt if you did you would end up being a scab like you have just basically pointed out. You will be one of these who kiss the boss's behinds to get promotion etc. andy1

11:05pm Thu 2 Jan 14

fireonthemountain says...

andy1 - thank you very much - you have just proved my point .

Disagree with the Unions - OUT .

The Bosses were FORCED to sack me by the Unions , because I
did not bow down to them . I spoke out in favour of the workforce .

Many of whom came to me later and told me that they agreed with me
but did not dare to say so in public .

I was paid a lot of compensation by the way .

At an Unjustified Dismissal case , at which the main "witnesses" against me were two Union Reps .

Subsequently , an amazing amount of people shook my hand - yes
the workers , who hated the Union , and were grateful to me .

Wonder what Milliband's new policies will be for 2014 ?

I hope Len tells him soon .

How sad .
andy1 - thank you very much - you have just proved my point . Disagree with the Unions - OUT . The Bosses were FORCED to sack me by the Unions , because I did not bow down to them . I spoke out in favour of the workforce . Many of whom came to me later and told me that they agreed with me but did not dare to say so in public . I was paid a lot of compensation by the way . At an Unjustified Dismissal case , at which the main "witnesses" against me were two Union Reps . Subsequently , an amazing amount of people shook my hand - yes the workers , who hated the Union , and were grateful to me . Wonder what Milliband's new policies will be for 2014 ? I hope Len tells him soon . How sad . fireonthemountain

2:21pm Sat 4 Jan 14

leyton says...

one of the things this government should do is enable people to sue this company for bad service .theft etc they still manage to hide behind this you cant sue the royal family shiit.The thieving that goes on ibn these depots is unreal and all you get is a few stamps compo and then you see your parcel etc for sale on ebay.
one of the things this government should do is enable people to sue this company for bad service .theft etc they still manage to hide behind this you cant sue the royal family shiit.The thieving that goes on ibn these depots is unreal and all you get is a few stamps compo and then you see your parcel etc for sale on ebay. leyton

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