Padiham and Hyndburn to lose fire engines as part of government spending cuts

Burnley and Pendle Citizen: Steve Harman Steve Harman

BOSSES of Lancashire Fire and Rescue Service have confirmed Padiham and Hyndburn will each lose an emergency appliance as part of cuts to meet Government spending targets.

There will also be changes to the cover provided in Chorley.

Yesterday, the county’s Combined Fire Authority approved the blueprint needed to save £4 million by March 31, 2017.

The ‘Emergency Cover Review 2013’ decision means a “wholetime” fire engine — fully crewed and on 24-hour standby — would be lost at Hynd-burn station leaving it with two.

One of two retained appliances at Padiham, crewed by volunteers, will also be scrapped.

Chorley fared better with a wholetime engine to be converted to the money-saving day-crewing plus regime during 2015-16. The borough’s retained crew would be transferred to a new station at Euxton. The review also splits the Urban Search and Rescue function and vehicles between Chorley and Bamber Bridge.

In total 32 firefighters’ posts will be lost in East Lancashire, The authority also reduced the time-scale of the review from four years saving £5.2 million, to three years (2014 to 2017), saving £4 million.

Chief Fire Officer Chris Kenny said: “The consultation was thorough, and the final package of revisions to emergency cover testifies to the fact we have listened carefully.

“I am confident that the changes in emergency cover will deliver the savings necessary, yet maximise the effectiveness of our emergency response capability. Even with these changes our overall response times to house fires will remain one of the fastest in the country.”

Lancashire secretary of the Fire Brigades Union Steve Harman said: “It will affect emergency cover, damage to property and possible loss of life.”

CFA deputy chairman and Hyndburn council leader Miles Parkinson, a former firefighter and FBU representative said: “This is not desirable but it was the least worst option.”

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5:12pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Malthus says...

Looks like it is government policy to burn poor people now. Was Chief Fire Officer Chris Kenny's post under scrutiny? I am sure that if my house was on fire I would sooner have an ordinary fire-fighter there, rather than an over paid, paper shuffling, seat warmer.
Looks like it is government policy to burn poor people now. Was Chief Fire Officer Chris Kenny's post under scrutiny? I am sure that if my house was on fire I would sooner have an ordinary fire-fighter there, rather than an over paid, paper shuffling, seat warmer. Malthus

5:28pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Rich Riley says...

The statistics are there for all to see. Reporting of fires are declining, fire related injuries and deaths are decreasing but yet the personnel is more or less the same. Any sensible and reasonable person can see that the sums don't add up. We don't need all these firefighters anymore.
The statistics are there for all to see. Reporting of fires are declining, fire related injuries and deaths are decreasing but yet the personnel is more or less the same. Any sensible and reasonable person can see that the sums don't add up. We don't need all these firefighters anymore. Rich Riley

5:30pm Tue 10 Dec 13

shytalk says...

Rich Riley wrote:
The statistics are there for all to see. Reporting of fires are declining, fire related injuries and deaths are decreasing but yet the personnel is more or less the same. Any sensible and reasonable person can see that the sums don't add up. We don't need all these firefighters anymore.
Until your house catches fire
[quote][p][bold]Rich Riley[/bold] wrote: The statistics are there for all to see. Reporting of fires are declining, fire related injuries and deaths are decreasing but yet the personnel is more or less the same. Any sensible and reasonable person can see that the sums don't add up. We don't need all these firefighters anymore.[/p][/quote]Until your house catches fire shytalk

5:41pm Tue 10 Dec 13

baldy999 says...

The emergency services are an insurance policy. They work to reduce risk, but Fire is indiscriminate and could happen to anyone. Just because your town was low risk doesn't mean you shouldn't have decent cover by professionally trained firefighters. Btw they don't just attend fires, you're more likely to need firefighters as a Road user.
The emergency services are an insurance policy. They work to reduce risk, but Fire is indiscriminate and could happen to anyone. Just because your town was low risk doesn't mean you shouldn't have decent cover by professionally trained firefighters. Btw they don't just attend fires, you're more likely to need firefighters as a Road user. baldy999

5:52pm Tue 10 Dec 13

stuart66 says...

Its all part of daves plan to introduce private emergency services, if you can afford them that is.
Its all part of daves plan to introduce private emergency services, if you can afford them that is. stuart66

6:31pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Copperhead says...

Nothing new these cuts - Padiham library has already closed . They had a closing down sale and I bought the book.
Nothing new these cuts - Padiham library has already closed . They had a closing down sale and I bought the book. Copperhead

6:50pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Rich Riley says...

shytalk wrote:
Rich Riley wrote:
The statistics are there for all to see. Reporting of fires are declining, fire related injuries and deaths are decreasing but yet the personnel is more or less the same. Any sensible and reasonable person can see that the sums don't add up. We don't need all these firefighters anymore.
Until your house catches fire
So we should all have a fire engine parked outside our houses just in case it catches fire?
[quote][p][bold]shytalk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rich Riley[/bold] wrote: The statistics are there for all to see. Reporting of fires are declining, fire related injuries and deaths are decreasing but yet the personnel is more or less the same. Any sensible and reasonable person can see that the sums don't add up. We don't need all these firefighters anymore.[/p][/quote]Until your house catches fire[/p][/quote]So we should all have a fire engine parked outside our houses just in case it catches fire? Rich Riley

7:14pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...

Malthus wrote:
Looks like it is government policy to burn poor people now. Was Chief Fire Officer Chris Kenny's post under scrutiny? I am sure that if my house was on fire I would sooner have an ordinary fire-fighter there, rather than an over paid, paper shuffling, seat warmer.
You might be on to something here, if starvation does not work then burn them out. Seem to remember a well known politician called Adolf can't remember his last name had a similar plan many years ago.
[quote][p][bold]Malthus[/bold] wrote: Looks like it is government policy to burn poor people now. Was Chief Fire Officer Chris Kenny's post under scrutiny? I am sure that if my house was on fire I would sooner have an ordinary fire-fighter there, rather than an over paid, paper shuffling, seat warmer.[/p][/quote]You might be on to something here, if starvation does not work then burn them out. Seem to remember a well known politician called Adolf can't remember his last name had a similar plan many years ago. Michael@ClitheroeSince58

10:19pm Tue 10 Dec 13

ted1951 says...

Rich Riley wrote:
The statistics are there for all to see. Reporting of fires are declining, fire related injuries and deaths are decreasing but yet the personnel is more or less the same. Any sensible and reasonable person can see that the sums don't add up. We don't need all these firefighters anymore.
Road accidents up, chemical incidents up. Fireman do not just go to fires.They attend any emergency incident
[quote][p][bold]Rich Riley[/bold] wrote: The statistics are there for all to see. Reporting of fires are declining, fire related injuries and deaths are decreasing but yet the personnel is more or less the same. Any sensible and reasonable person can see that the sums don't add up. We don't need all these firefighters anymore.[/p][/quote]Road accidents up, chemical incidents up. Fireman do not just go to fires.They attend any emergency incident ted1951

1:40am Wed 11 Dec 13

fireonthemountain says...

Sadly , Darwen will be next .

Our Fire Cover is spread wafer thin .

Yes , i accept fires have decreased (thank goodness) .

But let us look at a recent incident .

The fire at the old Highfield Club - where fire personnel went into a
large derelict building , into unknown danger . Risking their lives .

Fire is viscious - cruel - it doesn't care .

Let us be grateful we have people who do care .

As ted1951 says fireman don't just attend fires .

Let me give you all a little story .
A mate of mine owns an office block in Manchester .
Someone got stuck in a lift .

Mate phoned The Fire Brigade .

They turned up FAST , two engines , full sirens .

Mate told me "how ridiculous , totally unnecessary" .

Don't think the guy who was stuck would agree .

Would you like another little tale ?

Manchester - again - big Hotel - on fire .
In 1979 .

Firemen took me and my wife (pregnant) down a turntable .

We were both crying . Both from fear and happiness that we were safe .

Do not cut The Fire Brigade .

We need them .
Sadly , Darwen will be next . Our Fire Cover is spread wafer thin . Yes , i accept fires have decreased (thank goodness) . But let us look at a recent incident . The fire at the old Highfield Club - where fire personnel went into a large derelict building , into unknown danger . Risking their lives . Fire is viscious - cruel - it doesn't care . Let us be grateful we have people who do care . As ted1951 says fireman don't just attend fires . Let me give you all a little story . A mate of mine owns an office block in Manchester . Someone got stuck in a lift . Mate phoned The Fire Brigade . They turned up FAST , two engines , full sirens . Mate told me "how ridiculous , totally unnecessary" . Don't think the guy who was stuck would agree . Would you like another little tale ? Manchester - again - big Hotel - on fire . In 1979 . Firemen took me and my wife (pregnant) down a turntable . We were both crying . Both from fear and happiness that we were safe . Do not cut The Fire Brigade . We need them . fireonthemountain

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