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Burnley BNP man fined for fire alarm hoax

1:23pm Friday 16th May 2008

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A BRITISH National Party council candidate has been fined for sett-ing off a fire alarm which caused Burnley Town Hall to be evac-uated.

Political campaigner John Rowe, 52, had been barred from attending a meeting of Burnley's full council when the drama unfolded on Thursday night.

Moments later the fire alarm sounded and new Mayor Coun Ida Carmichael, taking her inaugural meet-ing, and fellow councillors, were asked to clear the building.

Council insiders said Mr Rowe had tried to escape via a fire exit, but found himself trapped in a courtyard inside the town hall complex, where he was later found by council officers.

Mr Rowe, of Cowper Street, Rosegrove, was later issued with an £80 fixed penalty notice for criminal damage.

But he remained defiant about his stance following the incident, amid criticism from police and political rivals.

Mr Rowe said: "I think it is completely improper and there is no justification for barring me from council meetings, and prevent me from council buildings."

He says he will be seeking legal and political advice, but that the matter "might just die a death".

Mr Rowe has accused council chief executive Steve Rumbelow of excluding him for "political reasons".

He says that if the chief executive, or council, wanted to bar him from their premises then they would need a county court injunction. "They did not do that because they know perfectly well that it would not have been granted," added Mr Rowe.

Following the town hall incident, Mr Rumbelow said: "It is not the disruption to our meeting that concerns me so much as the fact that this mindless act risked lives in other parts of Burnley.

"Our emergency services could have been needed elsewhere. This completely irresponsible act wastes taxpayers money and has put lives of Burnley folk at risk."

Sgt Martin Selway, of Burnley Police, added: "The police will take false alarms extremely seriously.

"Not only does it disrupt police and the fire service, but it causes unnecessary disruption for members of the public and potentially puts lives at risk."

A spokesman for the council's ruling Liberal Democrats said: "People were shocked by Rowe's behaviour.

"We now know that he did not intend to endanger life directly, but he must realise that his hoax has put lives at risk by distracting the fire service and police from essential duties.

"In addition to the risk, there is also the cost. Around six police officers and a fire crew attended the building.

"Forty councillors, the mayor, at least seven council staff, plus members of the public all had their demo-cratic business suspended and were forced to wait outside for the all-clear.

"How such a man is considered by the BNP as a suitable candidate for a public election is beyond us."

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Darren Reynolds, Burnley says...
9:44am Fri 16 May 08

There's more to it than this - hopefully full details will appear here once he has been charged.

Intrigued, Burnley says...
10:26am Fri 16 May 08

I have heard details, was it assumed to be the person in question following events leading to the fire alarm or was the person seen doing it?

Darren Reynolds, Burnley says...
11:19am Fri 16 May 08

I spoke to him whilst he was trapped outside between the fire exit where the alarm was raised and the locked iron gates. He said he was making a point about democracy, which I took as an admission.

YAS, BB1 says...
1:41pm Fri 16 May 08

SAYS ALOT FOR THE PARTY DOESNT IT!!! IMMATURE LOT!! HE SHOULD HAVE AN ASBO SLAPPED ON HIM!! THOSE EMERGENCY SERVICES COULD HAVE BEEN USED ELSEWHERE

hoodle, werk says...
1:55pm Fri 16 May 08

whats yas short for?

Doug Spencer - Spencer Fire, Bacup says...
1:58pm Fri 16 May 08

The most worrying part of this story is that someone was not able to get out via a fire exit. Whoever did the fire risk assessment of the building should be sacked. Imagine if a real emergency had occured and people who thought a fire exit would lead to a place of safety, were trapped!
I would hope the fire & rescue serice will be investigating the circumstances of this fully.

George Deighton, london says...
2:04pm Fri 16 May 08

CRAP.
WHAT ABOUT THE FRAUD, SPIN, HOUNOURS CORRUPTION, LOSS OF DATA.TONYS PHONEY WAR.

MPs EXPENCE ALLOWENCE COVER UP. BLAIRS 6 NEWE HOMES, BROWN NOT GIVING EURO CHOICE REFERENDUM IT GOES ON AND ON AND ON. WAKE UP MORONS PLEASE.

Dave, East Lancashire says...
2:10pm Fri 16 May 08

At least no-one's lives were actually put at risk by this moron's hoax. But he wasn't to know that, he just got lucky that the emergency services were not diverted from a real emergency.

An £80 fine is way too soft. Hoaxers, who always seem to have an excuse for their actions, should be made an example of.

Scumbags, Burnley says...
2:58pm Fri 16 May 08

What does the Sharon Wilkinson, the leader of the BNP group on Burnley Council, have to say about this idiot and his appalling behaviour?

Does Sharon still feel that John Rowe is a fit and proper person to stand as a candidate in local elections?


Nick Barfoot, essex says...
3:11pm Fri 16 May 08

In response to George Deightons comments
He’s right you know. !! Gordon brown denied the people of this country a vote on the eu referendum, illegally promoted himself as PM, gives British taxpayers money to every tin pot dictator on the planet, including 800 million to Pakistan who has a space programme instead of given that money to our old folk where thousands die each year due to cold related illnesses, they don’t take drugs, pot, crack to keep themselves warm.!!
How many of the cloth cap left wing pot smoking lefties in Burnley who contribute their Marxist anti white , anti BNP spew to this site , know that today 16th May this lousy corrupt lot in Whitehall lost their case in court which cost the hard working British taxpars £200.000 in costs. Those corrupt charlatans who the cloth capped idiots should be condemning now have to declare their expenses for their 2nd -3rd -4th homes that include Gordon Brown, Tony Blair, John Prescott, David the UAF supporting hug a hoodie Cameron and many more.
Yes George Deigton had it right the only thing he failed to mention was how crooked Mr Rowe left wing opposition are they most probably triggered the alarm off themselves to de grade the BNP once again but such vandalism will not last, as the BNP have something to fight for their country, who unlike the left want to give it to every gtitz, Fritz and Ali who illegally

Lala, Burnley says...
3:26pm Fri 16 May 08

Please don't give him a box of matches or else we may have another Reichstag fire on our hands.

andy, spain says...
9:41pm Fri 16 May 08

Ben Smalley wrote:
Lala wrote:
Please don\'t give him a box of matches or else we may have another Reichstag fire on our hands.
Dear God, have people not yet quit calling us the Nazis!! I see you don\'t go around calling our cultured islamic friends Nazis for there vast hatred and racial actions against us. Infact.. wait... Islam wants to take over the world and have a pure race all over the world... They were also some of the biggest outside supporters of the Nazis. I don\'t know yet, but I might have stumbled upon an iceberg here. Anyone care to highlight some facts to me, for both reasons why the BNP is Nazi. Could you then give me reasons as to why the islamists are Nazis.
Thanks
Well your former leader now deceased John Tyndall was once captured on a piccy under a picture of Adolph Hitler with two other brain dead individuals. He even quoted that Mein Kampth was his personal bible.

Present leader Nick Griffin has questioned the Holocaust and quoted that it was a lot of Allied Propaganda over 6 million killed in gas chambers and made into products like lamp shades of course this was only one group the six million that was the Jews.

If these quotes are not Neo-Nazism I'm not sure what is.

Regarding of the bloke who has smashed the Break Glass deliberately to get over his point of view he should of been charged with more then such a petty fine. He should be sent the following bill has an example Police salaries of the officers in attendance,Fire Officers in attendance, call out fees for the engineer who has been called out to change the break glass and to top it all the price of the break glass.

So people of Burnley this can be put down to the BNP who never take part in your towns budget attacking the budget when it is produced. Please put this down on paper for the ones called the BNP who never take part in debates so they can see next year how much one of their members have cost the public of Burnley. That way they may understand budgets in the near future.

Mike, Burnley says...
10:24pm Fri 16 May 08

To Nick Barfoot, essex and Ben Smalley:

I don't have a cloth cap and don't smoke anything but I do recognise a neo-nazi movement when I see it. The incident today is just another in the string of convictions for the thugs of the BNP.


Brian, Burnley says...
11:12pm Fri 16 May 08

Dear God, have people not yet quit calling us the Nazis!!

If it smells like ****, you don't need to taste it...

Ben Smalley, Burnley says...
11:31pm Fri 16 May 08

andy wrote:
Ben Smalley wrote:
Lala wrote: Please don\\\'t give him a box of matches or else we may have another Reichstag fire on our hands.
Dear God, have people not yet quit calling us the Nazis!! I see you don\\\'t go around calling our cultured islamic friends Nazis for there vast hatred and racial actions against us. Infact.. wait... Islam wants to take over the world and have a pure race all over the world... They were also some of the biggest outside supporters of the Nazis. I don\\\'t know yet, but I might have stumbled upon an iceberg here. Anyone care to highlight some facts to me, for both reasons why the BNP is Nazi. Could you then give me reasons as to why the islamists are Nazis. Thanks
Well your former leader now deceased John Tyndall was once captured on a piccy under a picture of Adolph Hitler with two other brain dead individuals. He even quoted that Mein Kampth was his personal bible. Present leader Nick Griffin has questioned the Holocaust and quoted that it was a lot of Allied Propaganda over 6 million killed in gas chambers and made into products like lamp shades of course this was only one group the six million that was the Jews. If these quotes are not Neo-Nazism I\'m not sure what is. Regarding of the bloke who has smashed the Break Glass deliberately to get over his point of view he should of been charged with more then such a petty fine. He should be sent the following bill has an example Police salaries of the officers in attendance,Fire Officers in attendance, call out fees for the engineer who has been called out to change the break glass and to top it all the price of the break glass. So people of Burnley this can be put down to the BNP who never take part in your towns budget attacking the budget when it is produced. Please put this down on paper for the ones called the BNP who never take part in debates so they can see next year how much one of their members have cost the public of Burnley. That way they may understand budgets in the near future.
OK you managed to attack the bnp... thats job 1 done.. Now can you fulfill the rest of the request and inform me of islamists connections and similarities and extremities. This is just a simple exercise then we can compare a race to 2 pieces of propaganda about the BNP if i dont hear any response from you i will automatically assume that you dont wish to declare the other facts ive asked you for.
Thanks

Funny guy, bburn says...
4:16am Sat 17 May 08

Well im no expert on islam but i can say not all of them are out there to kill or hurt or injure or hate other communities. sure theres a few but theres extremists in all walks and societies of life.
where as the BNP have one aim and one moto' if it aint white it aint right'.
Also just so that you know islam is a religion with a billion followeres worldwide, the bnp what 5 guys in burnley lol and finally islam is not racist BNP is. that says it all

Grant, says...
5:13am Sat 17 May 08

Funny guy wrote:
Well im no expert on islam but i can say not all of them are out there to kill or hurt or injure or hate other communities. sure theres a few but theres extremists in all walks and societies of life. where as the BNP have one aim and one moto\' if it aint white it aint right\'. Also just so that you know islam is a religion with a billion followeres worldwide, the bnp what 5 guys in burnley lol and finally islam is not racist BNP is. that says it all
Why are you so apologetic about Islam, yet so biased against the BNP?

Sorry, perhaps you can answer this question: have the BNP carried out terrorist bombings against London’s public transport services or Glasgow’s airport in an attempt to murder thousands of innocent civilians?

You don’t have to be an “expert on Islam” to recognise the fact that, while not all Muslims necessarily support (at least not publicly) these terrorist actions, that a heck of a lot of them do.

Let me quote you from their almighty Profit:

"Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allâh, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allâh and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islâm) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah[] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." (Quran 9:29) - The "religion of peace" in all its glory.

Now what I can tell you is that if you read the BNP policy, nowhere will you find words SO violently offensive or threatening as in the Koran. If you attend a BNP meeting you will not hear the hate filled ranting and raving against ordinary Britons that you can find in Mosques in the UK. If you would like to know exactly what is said about non-Muslims by Muslims in their Holy temples, I suggest you go to youtube and look up the Dispatches programmes: Undercover Mosques.

You state that you are not a “expert on Islam” yet then seek to reassure readers with some unsubstantiated certainty, in contrast to the BNP, Islam is no threat to the UK as its only a minority who blow up people on public transport. I quote: “but i can say not all of them are out there to kill or hurt or injure or hate other communities.” So the assertion is that BNP members are “out there” to do all this, sorry where is the evidence of this?

You say: “sure theres a few but theres extremists in all walks and societies of life.” So your saying extremists are ok, yet you accuse the BNP of being... extremist???

You say:
“where as the BNP have one aim and one moto' if it aint white it aint right'.” hmmm, sorry but this is lie, where was this quote attributed to the BNP as an official party motto?

Besides being devoid of any logical argument, your post contributes nothing but lies about the BNP, hypocritical apologies for Islamic extremism, and is basically rather sad.

Grant, says...
5:52am Sat 17 May 08

andy wrote:
Ben Smalley wrote:
Lala wrote: Please don\'t give him a box of matches or else we may have another Reichstag fire on our hands.
Dear God, have people not yet quit calling us the Nazis!! I see you don\'t go around calling our cultured islamic friends Nazis for there vast hatred and racial actions against us. Infact.. wait... Islam wants to take over the world and have a pure race all over the world... They were also some of the biggest outside supporters of the Nazis. I don\'t know yet, but I might have stumbled upon an iceberg here. Anyone care to highlight some facts to me, for both reasons why the BNP is Nazi. Could you then give me reasons as to why the islamists are Nazis. Thanks
Well your former leader now deceased John Tyndall was once captured on a piccy under a picture of Adolph Hitler with two other brain dead individuals. He even quoted that Mein Kampth was his personal bible. Present leader Nick Griffin has questioned the Holocaust and quoted that it was a lot of Allied Propaganda over 6 million killed in gas chambers and made into products like lamp shades of course this was only one group the six million that was the Jews. If these quotes are not Neo-Nazism I'm not sure what is. Regarding of the bloke who has smashed the Break Glass deliberately to get over his point of view he should of been charged with more then such a petty fine. He should be sent the following bill has an example Police salaries of the officers in attendance,Fire Officers in attendance, call out fees for the engineer who has been called out to change the break glass and to top it all the price of the break glass. So people of Burnley this can be put down to the BNP who never take part in your towns budget attacking the budget when it is produced. Please put this down on paper for the ones called the BNP who never take part in debates so they can see next year how much one of their members have cost the public of Burnley. That way they may understand budgets in the near future.
Well your former leader now deceased John Tyndall was once captured on a piccy under a picture of Adolph Hitler with two other brain dead individuals. He even quoted that Mein Kampth was his personal bible. Present leader Nick Griffin has questioned the Holocaust and quoted that it was a lot of Allied Propaganda over 6 million killed in gas chambers and made into products like lamp shades of course this was only one group the six million that was the Jews. If these quotes are not Neo-Nazism I'm not sure what is.



The comments you provide here made over 10 years ago during a court case have absolutely nothing to do with this Burnley council meeting issue. For the record, Nick Griffin does not deny the Holocaust and has repeatedly stated such, yet you choose to ignore this. You are simply attempting to smear the BNP as or ‘Nazis’ and Anti-Semitic - which they are not. The BNP has been transformed under the leadership of Nick Griffin into a very different party today than the BNP of old (under Tyndall). The BNP is not ‘Nazi’ nor Anti-Semitic, it has a growing number of Jewish members including an elected Councillor. These Jewish people would not join the BNP or stand for council on behalf of the BNP if they felt the party was Nazi, Anti-Semitic or counter to their interests as British citizens.


familyman1, burnley says...
8:09am Sat 17 May 08

Darren Reynolds wrote:
There\'s more to it than this - hopefully full details will appear here once he has been charged.
Your first here as well as the Burnley Express Darren, Anybody would think you have no home life, Good photo's though.
I will not go into wasting taxpayers money although this was a waste it is the first time we have seen it being spent rather than going into back pockets.
To the fool who says the BNP do not take part in the budget, They do take part and this year tabled proposals that would have meant no council tax rise, and would have allowed every ward to keep the £10,000 that is spent to improve the wards, instead of the LibDem Tory gang taking it from them, get to the budget meeting if you want to comment on it dont spout rubbish you are just making yourself look stupid.
BNP Nazis? grow up, obviously a sun or daily mirror reader
5 BNP members? not bad for burnley then, Held 1 seat, 7 second places, A 3rd and A 5th, imagine what we could have done with 10 members.
What has Sharon Wilkinson to say on the matter? Has anybody asked her? No. Darren Reynolds was so quick getting pics and his story to the papers he never had time to ask her, Given the chance the BNP will not condone this type of behavior and will say John rowe was acting on behalf of John Rowe and not in any capacity on behalf of the BNP.
The fire regulation? I can assure you that I will be in the town hall monday morning demanding an expanation on this matter, and will be reporting it to the proper authorities lives could have been lost if this was a real incident, so maybe we should thank John Rowe for bringing this to our attention, Any fine would come out of the taxpayers money that Steve Rumbelow and the LibDem's care so much about.

Health and Saftey, says...
8:35am Sat 17 May 08

Mr Rowe had tried to escape via a fire exit but had found himself trapped in a courtyard inside the town hall complex


If he was trapped had there been a real fire who would of been at fault if he died or many others had died who would of used the same fire exit. With health and safty these days im sure theres laws against have locked gates/doors etc.. near a fire exit. Maybe someone from Burnley Council's Health and Saftey should check on this and fine and charge the people for fair to provide an exit in an emergency.

andy, spain says...
9:44am Sat 17 May 08

Brian wrote:
Dear God, have people not yet quit calling us the Nazis!!

If it smells like ****, you don't need to taste it...
No Im not defending Islamic Extremists just Like I would not defend Christian Extremists nor Jewish Extremists for the simple following reason. I am Pagan and have no time for organised religions apart from possibly the real spiritualist types example Hinduism or Buddhism.

I believe regardless of colour of skin or religion we are of one. I couldn't care less what so God you prey to. In regards to so many people going on about Islamic bigotry what about the Protestant faith which I once was and the RC faith both controlled by a small group of rich people and the hate and bitterness. Im thinking of an example like the Irish issue to so called Christian Communitys who not long back where quite prepared to use the bomb to kill fellow Christians and any other religion who happened to be in the way, Says it all really for Christianity.

hoodle, home again says...
10:19am Sat 17 May 08

Thank God we live in a democracy. If people think the BNP are nazis they vote against them, if people see them as a real alternative to years of minority apeasement then their votes count equally.

Anon, Lancs says...
11:42am Sat 17 May 08

These council is going to have to take the vote of the public seriously. If we want BNP, we shall have it and these lame attempts of making it hard to work with the councillors of OUR choice is an insult to democracy, and any councillor caught hindering democracy should be fired. No if's or but's!

Rowe Deal, East Lancs says...
11:59am Sat 17 May 08

Not one of the BNP supporters on this thread have condemned their member and candidate for wasting tax payers money and our emergency services.

They're far more content with using 'straw man' arguments to detract from what their idiot did in the town hall.

Just a one trick pony, ain't they. Poor do, tho. Poor do when they are not willing to tell it like it is and openly come out and apologise to the police, fire crews, council staff and the much beleaguered council tax players!

What this guy did will come back to haunt them in the future and their vote is already massively down from what they archived some years back and Rowe's antics will only exacerbate this decline.

What an utter shower!


familyman1, Burnley says...
1:30pm Sat 17 May 08

Rowe deal, John Rowe was not acting in any way for the BNP, as made quiet clear in my last comment.
Good point about saying sorry though, then we might hear all the LibDem, Labour, Tory members saying sorry every time one of theirs molests a young boy or girl, for all the police time taken up investigating these crimes, then the court time, then the social workers who have to council the victims, then the taxpayer who fund their legal aid, are you typing yours yet? did'nt think so, well when you say sorry for somthing you have no control over then maybe we will, but you go on voting for these parties riddled with perverts when the facts are plain for all to see if you bother looking.
No you wont because like all cowards what you can't see cant hurt you. look up facts dont just believe the lies you are told from the "old gang of 3".

Familyman1, Burnley says...
1:49pm Sat 17 May 08

Mike wrote:
To Nick Barfoot, essex and Ben Smalley: I don't have a cloth cap and don't smoke anything but I do recognise a neo-nazi movement when I see it. The incident today is just another in the string of convictions for the thugs of the BNP.
Mike, I am not having a pop at you but please look up facts before you talk rubbish, If you can make a simple mistake about what I am going to point out in a bit just think how it would be very easy for you to be mistaken about somthing as complex as the BNP.
Your little mistake was, The incident took place on Thursday not Friday as you understood it, You can hold your hand up now and say "Yes I was wrong, and I may be wrong about the BNP as well" well done I bet you feel much better.

Rowe Deal, East Lancs says...
3:07pm Sat 17 May 08

Good point about saying sorry though, then we might hear all the LibDem, Labour, Tory members saying sorry every time one of theirs molests a young boy or girl, for all the police time taken up investigating these crimes


See what you have done here? You just don't get it, do you?

You've gone and thrown another 'straw man' into the ring. Anything to detract from what BNP member and candidate did in the town hall.

Here, paste this into your web-browser and learn something for a change instead of going off topic whenever someones asks Burnley BNP to apologise for yet another wholly unsavoury episode in the history of the Burnley BNP branch.

http://tinyurl.com/7
5l4l


Burnley Is A S**thole, Burnley says...
3:47pm Sat 17 May 08

I'm not surprised John Rowe has been barred from Council meetings and premises.

There are ways to get things done and this little man's rants and petulent outbursts are utterly pathetic.

I'd bar him from Burnley and send him back to under whichever stone he crawled from!

Familyman1, Burnley says...
3:58pm Sat 17 May 08

As I said when it becomes the norm to apologise for somthing that you,I or the Burnley Branch of the BNP has no control over, that is the day when LibLabCon spend the rest of their lives saying sorry to everyboby effected by their fiddling and perversions, their Thuggery and Buggery, people who live in glass houses should not throw stones.
I will not post links for you as if you wanted to know the truth you would go ahead and look for it as I have. Just one little snippet, When the Labour Mayor was caught in the Todd rd toilets did the entire Labour membership run around saying sorry to everyone they met?
I bet the fire alarm does not need counciling.

Rowe Deal, East Lancs says...
4:02pm Sat 17 May 08

bet the fire alarm does not need counciling.


No, but ranting misfits who cause false alarms certainly do!

Familyman1, Burnley says...
4:12pm Sat 17 May 08

Burnley Is A S**thole wrote:
I'm not surprised John Rowe has been barred from Council meetings and premises. There are ways to get things done and this little man's rants and petulent outbursts are utterly pathetic. I'd bar him from Burnley and send him back to under whichever stone he crawled from!
Your name gives it away, You must be either a LibDem or Labour councillor, and so proud of what you are trying to turn Burnley into that you have named yourself after it.
John Rowe can trace his family back nearly 200 years in Burnley, Can you. Whether I agree with what he has done or not, He has gotten off his backside and done somthing, What have you ever done? Mouthed off in the pub? Or are you just a keyboard warrior
Either put youself up front like John has done or get back to your sad little life moaning about others who have been there and done it.

Familyman1, Burnley says...
4:17pm Sat 17 May 08

Rowe Deal wrote:
bet the fire alarm does not need counciling.
No, but ranting misfits who cause false alarms certainly do!
Hahaha Still have not answered the important questions though have you

Rowe Deal, East Lancs says...
4:30pm Sat 17 May 08

Hahaha Still have not answered the important questions though have you


What, you mean you want me to take you up on one of your many 'straw man' derailing tactics.

TBH; I care nothing for the LibLabCon merchants and I'm certainly not going to debate any of their pass misdemeanours on a thread about some ranting BNP egit who has a passion for wasting council tax payers money, while putting lives at risk, by setting off fire alarms.

Jeez. The history of this BNP branch must be an utter embarrassment to the BNP hierarchy, and that's really saying something.

Familyman, Burnley says...
5:05pm Sat 17 May 08

Rowe Deal wrote:
Hahaha Still have not answered the important questions though have you
What, you mean you want me to take you up on one of your many 'straw man' derailing tactics. TBH; I care nothing for the LibLabCon merchants and I'm certainly not going to debate any of their pass misdemeanours on a thread about some ranting BNP egit who has a passion for wasting council tax payers money, while putting lives at risk, by setting off fire alarms. Jeez. The history of this BNP branch must be an utter embarrassment to the BNP hierarchy, and that's really saying something.
So your not even a voter then? well you have no say at all about where taxpayers money is spent or wasted,
Embarrasment? not one member of this Branch, In fact all over the country has been caught in the gents toilets with another male, they do not have convictions for abusing kids, and thats not because we are to good at it to get caught, Breaking news, Its because we dont do it, Its because we are family people not pervs, So John let off a fire alarm, at the most a bit childish, get a grip on reality, living on ifs and buts will ruin your life,nobody died, no emergency anywhere else, no mass murderer stalking the halls of power in the town hall, no a fire alarm was let off, a schoolboy trick, did he have jack boots on? was he goosestepping up and down saluting? No he was not, he was a bit peeved about not being let into a council meeting so let out his fraustration on a fire alarm, and he is now paying the fine, the same fine that you or I would have received.OK you or I would probaly not have done it, but it is hardly earth shattering, unless you are a LibDem

Dave, uk says...
5:29pm Sat 17 May 08

If Mr Rowe needs to report the locked fire exit to the local enviromental office as a serious breach of health and safety has occurred. Someone should be prosecuted in the council as this could have led to the death or seious injury to many people.

Jim, Burnley says...
5:35pm Sat 17 May 08

Sounds to me he was threatened with the police turning up to escort him from the building as he was barred anyway so he quickly left but the doors he used were alarmed and so he left by the wrong exit. As he was then found on council premises he was arrested?

Familyman1, Burnley says...
5:44pm Sat 17 May 08

Rowe Deal wrote:
Hahaha Still have not answered the important questions though have you
What, you mean you want me to take you up on one of your many 'straw man' derailing tactics. TBH; I care nothing for the LibLabCon merchants and I'm certainly not going to debate any of their pass misdemeanours on a thread about some ranting BNP egit who has a passion for wasting council tax payers money, while putting lives at risk, by setting off fire alarms. Jeez. The history of this BNP branch must be an utter embarrassment to the BNP hierarchy, and that's really saying something.
Hahaha thats you Darren, get a grip man. Meet us up Bobbin for a pint

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